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Post by mavsman53 on Apr 23, 2024 8:15:17 GMT -6
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Post by bucfan on Apr 23, 2024 8:26:50 GMT -6
Interesting comment saying ACU and SFA will move to CUSA with Tarleton. I'm thinking more SFA back to Southland. I would prefer that GCU move up. They seem to have some deep pockets that can buy winning teams.
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Post by Cap'n on Apr 23, 2024 8:29:32 GMT -6
According to the SFA fan board, they are not at all happy in the WAC. The UAC is good for them (and us) but the well funded non football schools create competitive gap in sports like basketball and volleyball that SFA has been dominant in years past.
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Post by Outsider on Apr 23, 2024 9:01:23 GMT -6
I don't see SFA happy going to the SLC. Tarleton has had their minds set on CUSA since the move to the WAC and having Luck work with them. Now, are SFA/Tarleton/ACU ready to make a move together? That would be a lot to assume, but the WAC has never done a good job managing it's members across the board in all sports. This could be nothing BUT SFA doing it's own thing, but historically the three of us have had more strength together. In today's DI world is a P6/G5 move worth it? At this point, anything non-P5 super conference really doesn't matter that much.
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Post by acumedic on Apr 23, 2024 9:18:36 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ll be asking if our plan is to head back to the Southland before I make my ACU Gives donation.
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Post by Outsider on Apr 23, 2024 9:32:36 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ll be asking if our plan is to head back to the Southland before I make my ACU Gives donation. Not a bad idea, but I really don't see us doing that. We were just TOO far done with the SLC when we left. That's why I think any move we make would be done in conjunction with SFA and Tarleton. Similar to our group move to the WAC. Nothing would prevent each school going their separate way though, or staying put. One thing for sure is the WAC leadership needs to get with it. I know at least one non-football WAC school would bolt for the WCC if offered, but not sure that would happen or make any difference. Of course that scenario would leave another non-football school as a severe outlier. Either way, the ACU leadership has been pretty adamant about moving forward and not backward.
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Post by dallasalum on Apr 23, 2024 10:53:42 GMT -6
Would a move to an FBS conference result is us being a permanent also-ran, at least in football?
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Post by jaminthebody on Apr 23, 2024 11:19:31 GMT -6
Would a move to an FBS conference result is us being a permanent also-ran, at least in football? In my opinion, it’s a big fish small pond vs small fish big pond issue. If football was the main focus, directing funds mostly to that sport would create a possible move and would make more sense than the UAC. The MVFC has succeeded in being successful as a football only FCS conference, but there is significant tradition with some of the schools. One benefit of FBS is that 6 wins would almost always result in a bowl game. 6 wins in the FCS doesn’t get any attention and in ACU’s FCS history, it only brings empty hope for the following year. Of course with the speed that college athletics is moving, the Subdivisions could be obsolete soon.
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Post by Outsider on Apr 23, 2024 11:27:44 GMT -6
It's depended on the media deals that end up coming about. For now, the G5 conferences still get enough media money to spread around the schools even though it isn't the P5 level. That's especially true when a school from that conference makes it to a bowl. Depending on how wide the gap gets between the upper crust and everyone else, those media rights deals may become less appealing. I am curious to see what happens if G5 ends up with its own separate system and how that would affect those media deals. Does the FCS stay it's own outlier? Of course it does mean spending more money to be competitive as well.
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Post by Outsider on Apr 23, 2024 11:35:19 GMT -6
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Post by Cap'n on Apr 23, 2024 12:48:15 GMT -6
No doubt that we would love to be in a conference that generates more revenue
The elephant in the room, however, is NIL.
I don’t know how much, if any, our sports make. I believe WBB has a small NIL package. Don’t know about MBB. An SFA source says that the Jacks have been paying basketball players about $15k each. One SFA player transferred to UNT who pays $75k per year. I don’t know if this is accurate.
Coach G says that P4 women typically make around $30k. So to recruit that level player we need about a half million in outside money.
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Post by dallasalum on Apr 23, 2024 12:58:52 GMT -6
IMHO the transfer portal combined with the NIL money has totally destroyed what was once true college sports. Remember "win one for the gipper"?
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Post by Outsider on Apr 23, 2024 13:29:31 GMT -6
IMHO the transfer portal combined with the NIL money has totally destroyed what was once true college sports. Remember "win one for the gipper"? Goes back beyond that though, especially with cable media deals. That blew the door open for everything else afterwards. That's why the NCAA is utterly irrelevant to the P5 and becoming less so for the G5.
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Post by archsimon on Apr 23, 2024 15:32:49 GMT -6
What a headache. But to ACU's credit, it has stocked its administration with additional know how and influence since its move to the WAC. The time is now for the school to blaze its own trail with or without SFA and Tarleton. As the Texas Rattlesnake used to say, "don't trust anybody."
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Post by mavsman53 on Apr 23, 2024 15:48:49 GMT -6
Folks NIL is here to stay, as is college free agency. I get blazing our own trail, but you have to know when to bail. If not, you can end up like Oregon St and Washington St looking for a conference to call home. I am not saying following SFA or Tarleton is the way to go. But administration has to have a clear picture of what is next
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