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Post by CrazyPurpleCat on Jul 1, 2021 21:57:50 GMT -6
I'm quite interested now with the new NIL laws being implemented what that will do to the college sports landscape, specifically the disparity between high majors and mid majors, and then mid majors and small majors.
I'm also curious what this may look like for ACU athletes. I've seen players jump on board with Cameo already, some have already partnered Barstool Sports, as well as other media outlets. Disregarding if people agree or disagree on college athletes getting paid, it is happening now. It brings to question our athletes here in Abilene. Who do you think the first big time payout goes to in our athletic program? Personally based on the success, or lack-there-of from the football program, I don't foresee a big payout to any of our players, but in the basketball program, I do think I could see it. If Joe Pleasant was still here he'd be the number 1 person I'd think of immediately, but with him being out, my gut is telling me it's going to Reggie Miller.
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Post by bucfan on Jul 1, 2021 22:07:01 GMT -6
I agree. Reggie got a lot of publicity nationally last year because of his defense and he seems to be savvy enough media wise to take advantage of it. I wouldn't be surprised to see some local businesses go after him.
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Post by catfanatic on Jul 2, 2021 9:20:49 GMT -6
Sadly, I believe there’ll be a direct correlation between game attendance #’s and NIL revenue realization.
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Post by bogeyman on Jul 2, 2021 11:02:08 GMT -6
Not following that catfanatic. Explain your thinking.
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Post by catfanatic on Jul 2, 2021 16:30:55 GMT -6
Not following that catfanatic. Explain your thinking. Just like the 80K+ you typically see in the stands at DKR runs about 10X what shows up at Wildcat Stadium, I believe UT, and other P5 school’s student-athletes will do much better than an ACU athlete in NIL. Likewise, Abilene’s not Austin. I’m not knocking NIL, I just don’t think our athletes will get that much out of it. Hope that helps!
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Post by bogeyman on Jul 2, 2021 18:07:36 GMT -6
Thanks. I follow now. I believe you are right. This could make small market universities play on a very uneven field.
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jul 4, 2021 8:51:11 GMT -6
I think that in the NLI conversation stadium attendance isn’t the driving factor. It’s social media presence. If, for example Paul Heipler had 20k followers, he could receive cash from products or services that he endorsed as a high profile bench warmer. Only a few upper echelon players will make any big money but a lot of players could make $25-$100 or more monthly based on online activity.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 6, 2021 18:40:27 GMT -6
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Post by CrazyPurpleCat on Jul 6, 2021 21:59:07 GMT -6
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Post by wildcats0075 on Jul 7, 2021 9:30:17 GMT -6
I bet in the end, it is the boosters that end up hating the NIL the most. After moves like this, you better bet that UT and ATM will be reaching out to their super boosters and looking for a similar deal. If I had an offer from the U and UT but at the U I knew I was getting an extra 6K, that would absolutely influence my decision. As a broke college kid, 6K for them is probably ore spending money than most of them have had in their life. I know as an 18 year old kid that never really had a part time job as I always had football practice, $6K would have been more than I had made in my life up to that point. We talk a lot about how much influence the facilities of a university has on recruiting and how you have to have that stuff to compete. Well that is noting compared to $6K a year. For example if you asked the U prospects if they would donate their 6K to the school to add a climbing wall at the student union building or improve their locker room, they would tell you to jump off a cliff. Some kids getting a big pay day will be one thing, but this is something else entirely. I mean this is literally how SMU built the Pony Express.
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Post by bucfan on Jul 7, 2021 9:57:02 GMT -6
So who will be the first ACU athlete paid to promote April Anthony's Encompass Home Health? :-)
Seriously, what Abilene businesses do we see jumping on board and paying ACU athletes?
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Post by Outsider on Jul 7, 2021 10:06:16 GMT -6
It's a new era for sure and there will be a lot of testing the waters for a while.
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Post by wildcatter on Jul 7, 2021 10:57:23 GMT -6
I will be shocked if any local businesses do anything with ACU student athletes. Not enough local support for the games as is, why would businesses need ACU athletes to market? Now if there is a booster that cares enough, then sure maybe that happens, but I don’t know who those boosters are.
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Post by wildcats0075 on Jul 7, 2021 13:59:36 GMT -6
I will be shocked if any local businesses do anything with ACU student athletes. Not enough local support for the games as is, why would businesses need ACU athletes to market? Now if there is a booster that cares enough, then sure maybe that happens, but I don’t know who those boosters are. Hello, I'm Peyton Mansell and when I am not leading the Cats to our victory last season, I am down here at the Skillets having a good old Southern Breakfast. Come on down and get the finest powered eggs this side of Treadaway Blvd. See our bacon cooked in a deep fryer so all the pieces stick together like an Abilene Tumbleweed. So come on down to Skillets. Its Atkins approved.......
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Post by rc on Jul 7, 2021 15:37:21 GMT -6
Not sure how this will all turn out. I always loved amateur sports -- there was something inspiring about people playing athletic games for the pure joy of the competition. Over my lifetime, I have been involved in national and international amateur sports and there has always been a wide range of definitions for what was an amateur and what was not. For example, some sports allowed free equipment, and others provided clothing or such things. We had sponsors, just no money changed hands. The ideal of getting cash directly was not normally allowed. In golf for example, there used to be a limit for the value of merchandise one could win for winning a tournament. Tennis was typically just trophies, as was sailing and windsurfing. How far down do we go? is little league baseball going to also eventually turn into some kind of semi-pro activity?
Now student athletes are getting direct cash payments apparently. My question is if this is the end of the NCAA and college sports as we have known it? A college degree is worth a great deal of money and scholarship athletes at most universities get free degrees that other students and boosters pay for (and for elite universities, a lot of money is made from the games.) Now we are adding the ability to get far more money, and the schools that can pay the most will likely get far more accomplished athletes. So another question is why not define a limit or level of payment so that a greater number of schools can continue to compete?
There is no easy answer to what this new movement will do to college athletics, but my worry is we are heading to a very unpredictable new era and we may well lose much of the fun and purity of amateur athletics. At the same time, I am typically in favor of rewarding accomplishment based on results. But that is the definition of professional athletics. I guess college athletics will now be a form of professional athletics and the long history of amateurism is coming to a close. The only concept that comes to mind for me is to define two classes of competitions. If a group wants to come together and have competitions but without cash payments, then they should be able to form such leagues. If others want to compete professionally, then those should be able to do that as well. Just don't ask other students to pay for any of that cost. BTW, I loved my university scholarship. I could not have attended college without it.
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