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Post by wildcats0075 on Jul 7, 2021 17:58:08 GMT -6
Not sure how this will all turn out. I always loved amateur sports -- there was something inspiring about people playing athletic games for the pure joy of the competition. Over my lifetime, I have been involved in national and international amateur sports and there has always been a wide range of definitions for what was an amateur and what was not. For example, some sports allowed free equipment, and others provided clothing or such things. We had sponsors, just no money changed hands. The ideal of getting cash directly was not normally allowed. In golf for example, there used to be a limit for the value of merchandise one could win for winning a tournament. Tennis was typically just trophies, as was sailing and windsurfing. How far down do we go? is little league baseball going to also eventually turn into some kind of semi-pro activity? Now student athletes are getting direct cash payments apparently. My question is if this is the end of the NCAA and college sports as we have known it? A college degree is worth a great deal of money and scholarship athletes at most universities get free degrees that other students and boosters pay for (and for elite universities, a lot of money is made from the games.) Now we are adding the ability to get far more money, and the schools that can pay the most will likely get far more accomplished athletes. So another question is why not define a limit or level of payment so that a greater number of schools can continue to compete? There is no easy answer to what this new movement will do to college athletics, but my worry is we are heading to a very unpredictable new era and we may well lose much of the fun and purity of amateur athletics. At the same time, I am typically in favor of rewarding accomplishment based on results. But that is the definition of professional athletics. I guess college athletics will now be a form of professional athletics and the long history of amateurism is coming to a close. The only concept that comes to mind for me is to define two classes of competitions. If a group wants to come together and have competitions but without cash payments, then they should be able to form such leagues. If others want to compete professionally, then those should be able to do that as well. Just don't ask other students to pay for any of that cost. BTW, I loved my university scholarship. I could not have attended college without it. I have never like the NIL process or the thought that athletes were not already paid in the form of scholarship. That being said, I was talking to a buddy today and complaining about how this will ruin things, especially the deal like Miami where that dude just effectively put everybody on payroll, but may be reconsidering. I thought it would kill the parity but then I realized that we don't have any parity now. In the BCS era, I bet there are 4 schools that make up half of the BCS appearances and way more than half of the titles. Now that we have the transfer portal, that will get even worse. The stud quarterback that Alabama missed coming out of high school now has a second chance to get picked up by Bama in the portal. Teams can reload faster and cover up any misses they had in HS recruiting that may have otherwise slowed down their juggernauts. Now with the NIL, if a school really wanted to compete, or more its boosters wanted it to compete, there is an avenue. If UCLA and its rich boosters want to make the program relevant again, all they need to do is get 10 of them to band together like the Miami guy did and each offer $500 per person to each scholarship athlete. That way the kitty grow to $5K a month per player and I guarantee they out recruit the SEC. I guess this at least provides and avenue for other schools to compete where in the past 20 years, despite some rich UCLA boosters wanting to regain their glory days, they could not do it. If a pay for play scheme got SMU to be a powerhouse, imagine what some of the rich old schools with significant booster can do. Think Michigan is sick of losing to OSU? Think Nebraska wants to become Big Red again. Wonder if boosters can crowd source the money? Like could somebody get the alumni club (Texas Ex's for example) and set up a pay pal with an understanding that all money raised will be used pay all of the players. Not sure what the restrictions are on that now. If the 80K non students that fill DKR each Sat will each give just 10 bucks to the effort then the $800K that will raise would pay each of the 85 UT scholarship football players almost $10K a year. |
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Post by jCat on Jul 8, 2021 6:14:31 GMT -6
I think the NIL keeps the NCAA out of antitrust court. With the NBA getting more serious about offering player development to younger athletes, as professional leagues do in every other country in the world, the NCAA had to allow entrepreneurship. The risk that the best athletes will simply opt-out of the NCAA is too great.
Now, of course, the risk is that with this much money involved, is anyone going to class? Some of the G-League just-out-of-high-school players were paid 6 figures to join last year's team. If NCAA basketball players (who have been 1 and done for years) are making that kind of money inside the NCAA, would you care about going to class?
Take Johnny Juzang. He's "returning" to UCLA. He wants to work on his game and go pro in a draft season that isn't as rich in talent (so he can secure a guaranteed 1st round contract). That all makes complete sense. I'm sure businesses are lining up to pitch him endorsement deals. He may make more money than most of us at UCLA next year. How seriously would you take your classes? If he "comes back" does he actually have to go to class? Does he have to make progress on a degree?
The landscape is changing rapidly, but the players have more options now.
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Post by ybp80 on Jul 8, 2021 6:31:52 GMT -6
If only Friendly Ed were still around. Surely he’d be in the lead with those monthly stipends to ACU athletes. After 41 years, I can still remember his tv ads - Friendly Ed’s Furniture 1902 Grape.
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jul 8, 2021 10:14:56 GMT -6
There is an excellent article on www.extrapointsmb.com about their quest to sign athletes to rep them on social media. |
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Post by acutrackfan on Jul 8, 2021 10:26:00 GMT -6
There is an excellent article on www.extrapointsmb.com about their quest to sign athletes to rep them on social media. I have signed up for the "Extra Points" newsletter. That newsletter has great stuff |
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 8, 2021 12:46:07 GMT -6
There is an excellent article on www.extrapointsmb.com about their quest to sign athletes to rep them on social media. I have signed up for the "Extra Points" newsletter. That newsletter has great stuff Matt has the best insider contacts in he WAC of any blogger/sportswriter. He turns out a lot of other interesting stuff as well, such as opinion pieces about the NIL |
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jul 9, 2021 9:55:33 GMT -6
“Hey Demario. Ya get $500 a month extra if ya come to tha U. Just like in tha ‘90s” Next bidder, please.  |
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jul 9, 2021 16:14:35 GMT -6
And now from SHSU (Am I the only one tired of hearing about their Spring Football championship)  |
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Post by acumedic on Jul 9, 2021 16:48:20 GMT -6
No you are not the only one. I don’t want to take too much away from them but let’s be honest, SHSU does not beat NDSU in a normal year. NDSU had 2 high draft picks sit out the spring season.
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Post by bucfan on Jul 9, 2021 17:19:05 GMT -6
To be fair, I'm sure the rest of the Southland got a little tired of hearing about ACU beating Texas. If ACU ever wins a national championship in football again, I'm sure all of my friends will get sick of me talking about it. Unfortunately, they are probably pretty safe from having to hear that.
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jul 9, 2021 18:07:37 GMT -6
No you are not the only one. I don’t want to take too much away from them but let’s be honest, SHSU does not beat NDSU in a normal year. NDSU had 2 high draft picks sit out the spring season. Except we don’t tweet about it 8 or 10 times per day. Full disclosure-I very much cheered for them throughout the playoffs. Just had enough. |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 19, 2022 15:22:24 GMT -6
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 20, 2022 7:25:43 GMT -6
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Post by Outsider on Jul 31, 2022 12:10:22 GMT -6
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Post by archsimon on Jul 31, 2022 13:48:23 GMT -6
I'm starting to feel like there should be conferences and league levels (DI FBS, DI FCS, DII, DII, etc.) built with teams who have little to no NIL opportunities to offer prospective athletes.
A hypothetical ... what if GCU receives millions of NIL dollars from the Colangelos to boost their basketball programs, thus creating a massive talent gap between the Lopes and Wildcats. Should ACU remain in league with them, switch to a conference with other 'sisters of the poor', or prod GCU into the Mountain West or what's left of the Pac-12, 10, 8?
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