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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Oct 24, 2021 6:06:21 GMT -6
Random thought #1.
If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Oct 24, 2021 6:24:25 GMT -6
Random thought #2.
Texas currently has 12 FBS teams and several more clamoring to move up. I know Texas is a recruiting hotbed but just how many FBS programs can Texas field without exhausting the supply of blue chip athletes?
247 sports lists about 220-230 three star or above blue chip recruits each year. The top 100 or so invariably wind up at P5 schools. That leaves a recruiting pool of 120 or 130 recruits that top Texas FBS non-P5 the recruiting boards. The competition includes Texas p5 programs looking to fill out recruiting classes as well as P5 and G5 schools from around the country. Everyone recruits Texas, it seems.
G5 schools don’t limit recruiting to 3 star athletes, of course. But successful FBS programs invariably build programs around three star recruits along with guys who are under the radar talents or who have the potential to develop with good coaching, along with solid weight and nutrition programs. The recruiting ecosystem can only sustain so many FBS programs and Texas may be reaching a saturation point.
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Post by Outsider on Oct 24, 2021 8:02:27 GMT -6
My thought is that they will exploit any resources they can regardless of whether or not they are DII, FCS or FBS. It doesn't matter the state. It gives high profile Texas athletes more local choices and opportunities, but these schools will go anywhere. Will it affect schools, like ACU, that have a disadvantage to begin with? Maybe it will to some degree, but if we are able to schedule well in the same pool of schools, then we can take advantage of that exposure. Besides, we have been recruiting more out of state as well. ACU still has to look for the best fits as it always has. On a side note, UTEP becoming bowl eligible is interesting. I saw they actually had a crowded line waiting to get into the game. Maybe there is hope for us yet.
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Post by catfanatic on Oct 24, 2021 10:37:30 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. Jeff Traylor will be named Tech’s new HC by Thanksgiving.
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Post by catfanatic on Oct 24, 2021 10:48:24 GMT -6
Random thought #2. Texas currently has 12 FBS teams and several more clamoring to move up. I know Texas is a recruiting hotbed but just how many FBS programs can Texas field without exhausting the supply of blue chip athletes? 247 sports lists about 220-230 three star or above blue chip recruits each year. The top 100 or so invariably wind up at P5 schools. That leaves a recruiting pool of 120 or 130 recruits that top Texas FBS non-P5 the recruiting boards. The competition includes Texas p5 programs looking to fill out recruiting classes as well as P5 and G5 schools from around the country. Everyone recruits Texas, it seems. G5 schools don’t limit recruiting to 3 star athletes, of course. But successful FBS programs invariably build programs around three star recruits along with guys who are under the radar talents or who have the potential to develop with good coaching, along with solid weight and nutrition programs. The recruiting ecosystem can only sustain so many FBS programs and Texas may be reaching a saturation point. While agreeing there is a limited supply, I believe the better determinant is # of Texas HS grads on current FBS/FCS rosters as I believe it exceeds 247’s cited list. More to the point, I believe the impact athletics, generally, and football, specifically, has on a school’s marketability is the true determinant of who wants to move, and finances determines who actually does. Lastly, I think economics are going to start shrinking the number of schools who compete at the FBS/FCS level as population, and resulting tax base, continues shifting south.
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Post by catfanatic on Oct 24, 2021 10:49:30 GMT -6
My thought is that they will exploit any resources they can regardless of whether or not they are DII, FCS or FBS. It doesn't matter the state. It gives high profile Texas athletes more local choices and opportunities, but these schools will go anywhere. Will it affect schools, like ACU, that have a disadvantage to begin with? Maybe it will to some degree, but if we are able to schedule well in the same pool of schools, then we can take advantage of that exposure. Besides, we have been recruiting more out of state as well. ACU still has to look for the best fits as it always has. On a side note, UTEP becoming bowl eligible is interesting. I saw they actually had a crowded line waiting to get into the game. Maybe there is hope for us yet. ACU’s best hope is cloning April Anthony!
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Post by EastTexasWildcat on Oct 24, 2021 11:58:19 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. Jeff Traylor will be named Tech’s new HC by Thanksgiving. Agree
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Oct 24, 2021 13:12:59 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. Jeff Traylor will be named Tech’s new HC by Thanksgiving. I think that’s very likely. Sonny Dykes gets the sentimental favorite vote though. His dad Spike was a legendary coach at TT.
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Post by kjmike1956 on Oct 24, 2021 14:10:56 GMT -6
Random thought #2. Texas currently has 12 FBS teams and several more clamoring to move up. I know Texas is a recruiting hotbed but just how many FBS programs can Texas field without exhausting the supply of blue chip athletes? 247 sports lists about 220-230 three star or above blue chip recruits each year. The top 100 or so invariably wind up at P5 schools. That leaves a recruiting pool of 120 or 130 recruits that top Texas FBS non-P5 the recruiting boards. The competition includes Texas p5 programs looking to fill out recruiting classes as well as P5 and G5 schools from around the country. Everyone recruits Texas, it seems. G5 schools don’t limit recruiting to 3 star athletes, of course. But successful FBS programs invariably build programs around three star recruits along with guys who are under the radar talents or who have the potential to develop with good coaching, along with solid weight and nutrition programs. The recruiting ecosystem can only sustain so many FBS programs and Texas may be reaching a saturation point. Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama and others raid Texas on a yearly basis for recruits. Probably half of Oklahoma's roster comes from Texas in some seasons.
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Post by kjmike1956 on Oct 24, 2021 14:17:28 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. What surprises me most besides UTSA is that Texas is not one if the four ranked teams. Baylor is another surprise, they were 2-7 last year.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Oct 24, 2021 14:24:05 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. What surprises me most besides UTSA is that Texas is not one if the four ranked teams. Baylor is another surprise, they were 2-7 last year. I thought about mentioning Texas but decided against it. RC roots for the Horns and I didn’t want to upset him. I don’t mind insulting “tude though. He’s an OU guy and deserves a good poke.
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Post by jaminthebody on Oct 24, 2021 14:24:12 GMT -6
My thought is that they will exploit any resources they can regardless of whether or not they are DII, FCS or FBS. It doesn't matter the state. It gives high profile Texas athletes more local choices and opportunities, but these schools will go anywhere. Will it affect schools, like ACU, that have a disadvantage to begin with? Maybe it will to some degree, but if we are able to schedule well in the same pool of schools, then we can take advantage of that exposure. Besides, we have been recruiting more out of state as well. ACU still has to look for the best fits as it always has. On a side note, UTEP becoming bowl eligible is interesting. I saw they actually had a crowded line waiting to get into the game. Maybe there is hope for us yet. Regarding UTEP, there is a strong possibility that in two weeks, ESPN Gameday will be there for their game against UTSA. The Sun Bowl is one of the most beautiful scenes in college football. At the beginning of last season, if someone said that UTEP and UTSA would host Gameday, I would’ve thought it was ludicrous or that it would’ve been because both teams had the longest losing streaks in the nation, like UMASS and UCONN. Traylor has done a phenomenal job in San Antonio, but we should not discount what Dimel has done in El Paso.
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Post by jaminthebody on Oct 24, 2021 14:29:02 GMT -6
Jeff Traylor will be named Tech’s new HC by Thanksgiving. I think that’s very likely. Sonny Dykes gets the sentimental favorite vote though. His dad Spike was a legendary coach at TT. I still remember all of the “I like Spike” bumper stickers as a kid in various west Texas towns. I’ve never been a Tech fan, but they way ahead of their peers at that time in marketing.
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Post by jaminthebody on Oct 24, 2021 14:29:59 GMT -6
Random thought #2. Texas currently has 12 FBS teams and several more clamoring to move up. I know Texas is a recruiting hotbed but just how many FBS programs can Texas field without exhausting the supply of blue chip athletes? 247 sports lists about 220-230 three star or above blue chip recruits each year. The top 100 or so invariably wind up at P5 schools. That leaves a recruiting pool of 120 or 130 recruits that top Texas FBS non-P5 the recruiting boards. The competition includes Texas p5 programs looking to fill out recruiting classes as well as P5 and G5 schools from around the country. Everyone recruits Texas, it seems. G5 schools don’t limit recruiting to 3 star athletes, of course. But successful FBS programs invariably build programs around three star recruits along with guys who are under the radar talents or who have the potential to develop with good coaching, along with solid weight and nutrition programs. The recruiting ecosystem can only sustain so many FBS programs and Texas may be reaching a saturation point. Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama and others raid Texas on a yearly basis for recruits. Probably half of Oklahoma's roster comes from Texas in some seasons. OU’s best player right now is from the D.C. metro.
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Post by EastTexasWildcat on Oct 24, 2021 14:33:00 GMT -6
Random thought #1. If you had told me before the season that 4 Texas FBS teams would be in the top 25 at this point in the season I would have found that believable. If you had told me UTSA would be one of them I would have laughed at you. Jeff Traylor has done an amazing job of turning that program around. I wouldn’t have laughed if you had mentioned SMU though. Sonny Dykes has been building a powerhouse at SMU for several years now. What surprises me most besides UTSA is that Texas is not one if the four ranked teams. Baylor is another surprise, they were 2-7 last year. Speaking of Baylor….does LSU look at Dave Aranda for their coaching job?
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