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Post by Outsider on Jul 25, 2022 12:29:06 GMT -6
Disheartening to see the listing of conference rankings with only 5 teams still in the conference.... Kudos to Kobe Clark & Reese Moore for their per-season selections.
I will admit a 5 team WAC football conference is a kick to the crotch. But there is not much we can do about other Universities actions. However, we can control our actions and how we go about our business. For that reason i like KP's mantra and staff recruiting philosophy. Only time will tell if it produces fruit. I guess if i was disheartened about anything, it would be the WAC's preseason prognostication of player talent. ACU's projected list of All Conference players is a real bummer. I know we lost some quality players, but i believe there is talent on this team. The WAC's perceived ACU player talent rankings says a lot about our past coaching regimes recruiting. So it really gets me jazzed for KP & staff that the WAC shows ACU to finish 2nd in the WAC...with least amount of perceived All Conference player talent. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for KP, staff & team success. GO CATS!!!!
Pre-season All Conference
SFA - 14 players Sam - 8 players Tarleton - 5 players
UTEC - 3 players ACU - 2 players
We are still unproven talent at this point. The votes for us shows the potential the other coaches see, as well as our coaches. I will be more disappointed if we still only have 2 players with such honors at the end of the season.
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Post by bogeyman on Jul 25, 2022 13:15:40 GMT -6
Just wondering what the criteria behind not having Sam Houston in the preseason poll but putting their players on the preseason All Conference team.
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Post by wildcats0075 on Jul 26, 2022 14:22:30 GMT -6
Disheartening to see the listing of conference rankings with only 5 teams still in the conference.... Kudos to Kobe Clark & Reese Moore for their pre-season selections.
I will admit a 5 team WAC football conference is a kick to the crotch. But there is not much we can do about other Universities actions. However, we can control our actions and how we go about our business. For that reason i like KP's mantra and staff recruiting philosophy. Only time will tell if it produces fruit. I guess if i was disheartened about anything, it would be the WAC's preseason prognostication of player talent. ACU's projected list of All Conference players is a real bummer. I know we lost some quality players, but i believe there is talent on this team. The WAC's perceived ACU player talent rankings says a lot about our past coaching regimes recruiting. So it really gets me jazzed for KP & staff that the WAC shows ACU to finish 2nd in the WAC...with least amount of perceived All Conference player talent. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for KP, staff & team success. GO CATS!!!!
Pre-season All Conference
SFA - 14 players Sam - 8 players Tarleton - 5 players
UTEC - 3 players ACU - 2 players
Had not really thought about that, the conference must think that our coaching staff is Saben level effective. How in the world did they vote that we have the fewest all conference level players yet pick us second in the conference? If they don't think we have the pure horses to compete, they must think we are going to have some amazing coaching and schemes to make up for that perceived lack of talent.
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Post by Outsider on Jul 26, 2022 19:18:53 GMT -6
For giggles, but interesting to see where some see different FCS teams; agree with them or not. They have ACU at #83 and no mention of us moving up by the end of the season. In our grouping, they mention Grambling St. and Colgate. What I find interesting is the comments about Grambling St. having a new coach and bringing in a lot of talent. My immediate thought was that these guys really don't know much about other teams when you just described us yet didn't say anything about us. Personally, I would put us a little higher than 83 to begin with and given us the ability to move up. I am not voting any this season, so doesn't matter. Still, interesting to see where people's thoughts are on our teams.
***FYI, I'll add that Massey starts us off at #59**
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 27, 2022 4:36:07 GMT -6
For giggles, but interesting to see where some see different FCS teams; agree with them or not. They have ACU at #83 and no mention of us moving up by the end of the season. In our grouping, they mention Grambling St. and Colgate. What I find interesting is the comments about Grambling St. having a new coach and bringing in a lot of talent. My immediate thought was that these guys really don't know much about other teams when you just described us yet didn't say anything about us. Personally, I would put us a little higher than 83 to begin with and given us the ability to move up. I am not voting any this season, so doesn't matter. Still, interesting to see where people's thoughts are on our teams. ***FYI, I'll add that Massey starts us off at #59** Interesting. Apart from Sam Herder these are the most knowledgeable guys in FCS. Their bottom and middle tier rankings reinforce what I have long believed- even FCS ‘experts’ don’t really know much about teams outside the top 30 or so and their own conference.
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Post by acutrackfan on Jul 27, 2022 4:56:13 GMT -6
All of the prognosticators are shooting in the dark -- even more so with the advent of the transfer portal. With 50% of ACU's roster new and with some of the names coming in very recently, I am not surprised that ACU is being taken lightly. I consider myself a pretty serious fan of ACU football/athletics and I have absolutely no idea what to think about this year's team. I hope that the huge numbers of FBS transfers will bear fruit, but I don't know what to expect until I see this team in person and due to my fall schedule, I won't even see the team until late September (hopefully).
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 27, 2022 5:51:28 GMT -6
All of the prognosticators are shooting in the dark -- even more so with the advent of the transfer portal. With 50% of ACU's roster new and with some of the names coming in very recently, I am not surprised that ACU is being taken lightly. I consider myself a pretty serious fan of ACU football/athletics and I have absolutely no idea what to think about this year's team. I hope that the huge numbers of FBS transfers will bear fruit, but I don't know what to expect until I see this team in person and due to my fall schedule, I won't even see the team until late September (hopefully). Even so, 83 out if 130 with Tarleton 25 spots above us doesn’t seem right.
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Post by acutrackfan on Jul 27, 2022 6:13:08 GMT -6
Oh, it galls me to be 25 places below Tarleton, a team we beat soundly in 2021 in what was arguably our only quality win of the year. But, I think the many question marks of this team will only be answered during this coming season. If we are are still ranked #83 in 2023, I will be truly disappointed.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 27, 2022 6:26:21 GMT -6
Oh, it galls me to be 25 places below Tarleton, a team we beat soundly in 2021 in what was arguably our only quality win of the year. But, I think the many question marks of this team will only be answered during this coming season. If we are are still ranked #83 in 2023, I will be truly disappointed. I’ll be truly disappointed if we are 83rd at the end of this year.
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Post by bogeyman on Jul 27, 2022 8:14:59 GMT -6
Fall camp is going to really be tough with temps over 100 for the next two weeks and maybe more. Hope the guys are tanking up and our medical staff is really preaching "hydration."
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 27, 2022 8:34:01 GMT -6
Fall camp is going to really be tough with temps over 100 for the next two weeks and maybe more. Hope the guys are tanking up and our medical staff is really preaching "hydration." I recall from my growing up years that Arizona State held their fall camp in the cool pines of Northern Arizona, which was only a couple of hours north of Tempe. Unfortunately ACU has no mountains anywhere near campus. Maybe they could move practices to 4 AM..
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Post by bogeyman on Jul 28, 2022 11:51:10 GMT -6
A little preview blip about the start of fall practices on ACU Sports.com. 5 practices per week for 4 weeks with an open practice on Sat. Aug 13. Coach Patterson says "I like our talent and depth." When has an ACU football coach said that in recent years?
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Post by Outsider on Jul 28, 2022 12:41:44 GMT -6
Fall camp is going to really be tough with temps over 100 for the next two weeks and maybe more. Hope the guys are tanking up and our medical staff is really preaching "hydration." I recall from my growing up years that Arizona State held their fall camp in the cool pines of Northern Arizona, which was only a couple of hours north of Tempe. Unfortunately ACU has no mountains anywhere near campus. Maybe they could move practices to 4 AM.. Camp Tontozona, the practice field up by Kohl's Ranch. I heard they won't be able to practice there this year again because of COVID protocols.
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Post by ceyonce on Jul 28, 2022 14:17:17 GMT -6
Fall camp is going to really be tough with temps over 100 for the next two weeks and maybe more. Hope the guys are tanking up and our medical staff is really preaching "hydration." I recall from my growing up years that Arizona State held their fall camp in the cool pines of Northern Arizona, which was only a couple of hours north of Tempe. Unfortunately ACU has no mountains anywhere near campus. Maybe they could move practices to 4 AM.. It's hard to believe but ASU actually only spends one weekend up at Camp Tontozona now. Indoor facilities ruined a great tradition imho
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Post by Outsider on Jul 28, 2022 14:42:59 GMT -6
I recall from my growing up years that Arizona State held their fall camp in the cool pines of Northern Arizona, which was only a couple of hours north of Tempe. Unfortunately ACU has no mountains anywhere near campus. Maybe they could move practices to 4 AM.. It's hard to believe but ASU actually only spends one weekend up at Camp Tontozona now. Indoor facilities ruined a great tradition imho Indoor facilities are beautiful, but nowhere near as beautiful as Kohl's Ranch. I miss the Ponderosas.....
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