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Post by kjmike1956 on Nov 2, 2022 12:10:47 GMT -6
Right now we are 5th and UCA is 7th in the ASUN/WAC power rankings. www.wacsports.com/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/2022fbasunautobidDENVER – The Western Athletic Conference (WAC) and the ASUN Conference have unveiled the joint process between the leagues to determine an automatic qualifier for the 2022 NCAA FCS Championship. Each conference shall nominate its regular season champion (by the conference’s own formula) for AQ comparison. If the regular season champion is a reclassifying team, the conference shall nominate the team finishing highest in the regular season standings that is eligible for an FCS AQ. Tiebreaker formulas are to be set by each conference and may include use of the ASUN-WAC Power Ranking after the conclusion of regular season play. If the two nominated teams have the same W-L record in Countable Games, and they met during the regular season, the head-to-head winner shall be the AQ recipient. If item No. 3 above is not applicable, the team with the higher ASUN-WAC Power Ranking will be declared the AQ recipient. The ASUN-WAC Power Ranking will be calculated by bracketologist Warren Nolan utilizing a measure similar to the NCAA RPI that rates teams for seeding and at-large berths into postseason NCAA Championships. Countable Games will include any scheduled contests against FCS teams eligible for the FCS Championship, any team that is reclassifying to FCS and is in the reclassification process, or any FBS or FBS reclassifying teams. Games that will not be counted in the ASUN-WAC Power Rankings will include any matchups lost to an FBS team or any game played in general against a non-Division I opponent (DII, DIII or NAIA). Based on the above, we have a higher ASUN-WAC ranking than Central Arkansas. If we both end up with no conference losses, we could well get the nod over Central Arkansas.
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Post by Outsider on Nov 2, 2022 14:19:33 GMT -6
Athlon still has Austin Peay as already clinching the WAC-ASUN auto-bid. and no mention of either UCA or us. I thought that was interesting. I still saw UCA getting the nod over us. They are still #36 with a #24 SOS over our #44 and #63. All of UCA's wins are DI opponents. For Play off consideration, they are 4-4 and we are 4-3 because one of our wins is against DII WNMU. Again, this is why I hate scheduling DII games because they put us down by at least one game when it comes to play-off consideration. WNMU is not a countable game... Most of the ASUN teams have played harder schedules than us and why I have been saying the auto-bid will probably go through them. We may still get an at large, which Athlon doesn't even name us as a possibility. Now, I don't think Athlon is correct, but it tells me where a lot of minds are right now who will be voting. We will see what the WAC leadership thinks later depending on how we both play the rest of the season. herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-6-bzbz/**UCA is 3-0 in conference. We are 2-0.**
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Post by acumedic on Nov 2, 2022 15:40:22 GMT -6
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Nov 2, 2022 18:12:21 GMT -6
We control our own destiny. If we beat TSU and SFA, we probably get the AQ. But SFA is still alive. If we tie with SFA at 3-1 then they will be the WAC nominee and they play UCA the week before they play us.
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Post by Outsider on Nov 2, 2022 18:58:11 GMT -6
We really need to win out, but it is still possible if we don't beat Sam. The question is if the WAC-ASUN will get an at large bid as well. I am not sure of the likelihood.
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Post by kjmike1956 on Nov 2, 2022 19:34:32 GMT -6
Athlon still has Austin Peay as already clinching the WAC-ASUN auto-bid. and no mention of either UCA or us. I thought that was interesting. I still saw UCA getting the nod over us. They are still #36 with a #24 SOS over our #44 and #63. All of UCA's wins are DI opponents. For Play off consideration, they are 4-4 and we are 4-3 because one of our wins is against DII WNMU. Again, this is why I hate scheduling DII games because they put us down by at least one game when it comes to play-off consideration. WNMU is not a countable game... Most of the ASUN teams have played harder schedules than us and why I have been saying the auto-bid will probably go through them. We may still get an at large, which Athlon doesn't even name us as a possibility. Now, I don't think Athlon is correct, but it tells me where a lot of minds are right now who will be voting. We will see what the WAC leadership thinks later depending on how we both play the rest of the season. herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-6-bzbz/**UCA is 3-0 in conference. We are 2-0.** Austin Peay is 1-2 in the A-SUN, I do not see them getting a bid over Central Arkansas. If Central Arkansas wins the A-SUN, and they are in the drivers seat, either they are the WAC champion will get the automatic bid.
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Post by Outsider on Nov 2, 2022 19:49:57 GMT -6
Athlon still has Austin Peay as already clinching the WAC-ASUN auto-bid. and no mention of either UCA or us. I thought that was interesting. I still saw UCA getting the nod over us. They are still #36 with a #24 SOS over our #44 and #63. All of UCA's wins are DI opponents. For Play off consideration, they are 4-4 and we are 4-3 because one of our wins is against DII WNMU. Again, this is why I hate scheduling DII games because they put us down by at least one game when it comes to play-off consideration. WNMU is not a countable game... Most of the ASUN teams have played harder schedules than us and why I have been saying the auto-bid will probably go through them. We may still get an at large, which Athlon doesn't even name us as a possibility. Now, I don't think Athlon is correct, but it tells me where a lot of minds are right now who will be voting. We will see what the WAC leadership thinks later depending on how we both play the rest of the season. herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-6-bzbz/**UCA is 3-0 in conference. We are 2-0.** Austin Peay is 1-2 in the A-SUN, I do not see them getting a bid over Central Arkansas. If Central Arkansas wins the A-SUN, and they are in the drivers seat, either they are the WAC champion will get the automatic bid. Agree that AP at this point is behind the 8 ball now. I think UCA and ACU currently have the best chances, but a lot will depend on the next several games. At one point I thought EKU would be a strong contender. The Wac-ASUN Power rankings is kinda all over the place.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Nov 4, 2022 5:16:26 GMT -6
We really need to win out, but it is still possible if we don't beat Sam. The question is if the WAC-ASUN will get an at large bid as well. I am not sure of the likelihood. Zero in my opinion. It’s the autobid or nothing.
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Post by Outsider on Nov 4, 2022 7:44:46 GMT -6
We really need to win out, but it is still possible if we don't beat Sam. The question is if the WAC-ASUN will get an at large bid as well. I am not sure of the likelihood. Zero in my opinion. It’s the autobid or nothing. That's my fear and why we need to win out, period.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Nov 4, 2022 9:19:55 GMT -6
Athlon still has Austin Peay as already clinching the WAC-ASUN auto-bid. and no mention of either UCA or us. I thought that was interesting. I still saw UCA getting the nod over us. They are still #36 with a #24 SOS over our #44 and #63. All of UCA's wins are DI opponents. For Play off consideration, they are 4-4 and we are 4-3 because one of our wins is against DII WNMU. Again, this is why I hate scheduling DII games because they put us down by at least one game when it comes to play-off consideration. WNMU is not a countable game... Most of the ASUN teams have played harder schedules than us and why I have been saying the auto-bid will probably go through them. We may still get an at large, which Athlon doesn't even name us as a possibility. Now, I don't think Athlon is correct, but it tells me where a lot of minds are right now who will be voting. We will see what the WAC leadership thinks later depending on how we both play the rest of the season. herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-6-bzbz/**UCA is 3-0 in conference. We are 2-0.** Playing two FBS games is almost as bad as a d2 game in terms of playoff consideration. D2 games don’t count as wins. FBS games count if we win, but the probability of an FCS team pulling off a win is very low. I understand these scheduling decisions are driven by budgetary needs but they severely handicap The Cats chances of making the playoffs.
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Post by kjmike1956 on Nov 7, 2022 7:40:55 GMT -6
WAC Rankings November 12 games
#21 Sam Houston ST #39 ACU #45 SFA #60 Tarleton St #66 Southern Utah #70 Utah Tech
A-SUN Rankings
#26 Jacksonville St #28 Eastern Kentucky #35 Austin Peay #41 Central Arkansas #42 Kennesaw St #102 North Alabama
Others
#6 Incarnate Word #13 North Dakota #69 Prairie View A&M #116 Lamar
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Post by Outsider on Nov 7, 2022 8:21:58 GMT -6
A win over Sam + SFA would help push ACU over the ASUN champs. Without that, we are really fighting for a spot even if we win against SFA.
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Post by acu38troy35 on Nov 7, 2022 10:38:33 GMT -6
Has there been any talk of getting out of the WAC in the near future? My guess is that being in the WAC is a positive for the basketball teams, but this whole WAC-ASUN alliance screws us for playoff hopes. Is the WAC adding football teams in 2023?
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Post by kjmike1956 on Nov 7, 2022 11:50:08 GMT -6
A win over Sam + SFA would help push ACU over the ASUN champs. Without that, we are really fighting for a spot even if we win against SFA. I agree that if we win out, we will probably overtake the A-SUN champ. Eastern Kentucky, Austin Peay and Central Arkansas all have conference losses. If we win out we would have no conference losses. Additionally Sam Houston beat Eastern Kentucky and if we end up beating Sam Houston and SFA, I think we would overtake the A-SUN winner who would have a conference loss. Additionally, Sam Houston St and Jacksonville St are ineligible for the playoffs. The Ivy league schools (Yale and Penn) do not participate in the FCS playoffs and the SWAC (Jackson St) and MEAC champions play each other rather than participate in the playoffs. There are 9 Missouri Valley Conference teams that are rated above us. There is no way teams like South Dakota and Missouri St which are rated higher than us each with 3-6 records will make the playoffs. Thus, we move up about 7 slots in the rankings to the low 30s in Massey. If we take care of business in the next 2 games, we will be rewarded will a playoff bid.
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Post by Outsider on Nov 8, 2022 10:59:10 GMT -6
Around the halfway mark they discuss the mess of the WAC-ASUN AQ and doubts of an At-Large. They don't rule it out though.
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