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Post by bogeyman on May 8, 2024 9:32:26 GMT -6
Ok, I read the article about the new NIL collective we are launching and am a bit confused. The article says it is not an officially recognized part of ACU athletics and then coach Tanner calls it "our collective." So what does this do? Does it funnel money to athletes? Do we pay a company to get "sponsorship" miney for our athletes? Do ACU supporters somehow fund this? It seemed to dance around the issues of what this is really for. Maybe I'm just dense (ok I know I'm dense) but the write up seemed unclear about what specifically is happening here.
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Post by mavsman53 on May 8, 2024 10:38:05 GMT -6
Many universities now have collectives. Bogey it is not ours, but it is for "our" student athletes. This is an outside entity that will provide opportunities for our student athletes to earn money for their name, image and likeness. Sometimes these collectives are provided by donors. Some things I have found in doing some research-
The first "collective," known as the Gator Collective, formed not long after that change at the University of Florida (though it's very important to note that collectives are not officially part of any school or university). The idea was basically, "Hey, let's get all these people who care about our university's athletics programs to pool their money and resources so we can provide the most opportunities for student athletes." The obvious undertone here is, "Let's create financial incentives so the best athletes want to come here and win championships."
Only a year later, more than 120 different collectives exist. Nearly all of the 65 "Power 5" schools have a collective. Members of collectives include famous former student athletes, wealthy boosters, local business leaders, brands, and more.
The Donor Collective This kind of collective is probably the most straightforward. In this collective, members donate cash to a general pool. Then, the collective pays athletes in an NIL-compliant manner in exchange for things like social media posts, appearances at events, and other arranged perks.
This is one of the most common types of collectives. It's also pretty easy to understand. And in a pre-NIL world, we've all heard stories about how certain boosters would pay athletes under the table to go to their university. This gets rid of all those shady undertones and protects both the donors and players with a sense of transparency.
The Marketplace Collective The marketplace NIL collective is a bit more hands-on with athletes. In this scenario, the collective is also connecting college athletes to different endorsement and NIL opportunities from third parties. This means they have a strong relationship with different local and national brands and companies. It also means the collective could even serve as an agent for the athlete, which is where the collective also starts to make money.
Additionally, these collectives may actually employ members to facilitate the deals. They'll take donations and divert them to operating costs in order to make it worthwhile for everybody involved.
The YOKE Collective YOKE is a company that creates software enabling teams and student athlete bodies to pool together and split the revenue from NIL deals. YOKE participates either at the school level (meaning the university's athletic department pays to provide the software as a service to students) or as a revenue sharing model (reportedly 75 percent to the players and 25 percent to YOKE in some cases).
The premise behind YOKE is more community-based. The software provided for teams includes a website, mobile app, and admin dashboard. In a lot of cases, YOKE more or less provides a monetized fan club for the teams and players. The athletes usually exchange things like appearances, social media shout-outs, and 1-on-1 experiences. And the teams typically split the profits.
The Dual Collective A dual collective performs the functions of both a marketplace collective and a donor collective. Essentially, they provide themselves enough flexibility to both accept donations and facilitate outside deals for athletes. The country's first collective, The Gator Collective, is an example of this.
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Post by bogeyman on May 8, 2024 11:11:28 GMT -6
Thank you Mavsman. This helps a lot. I assume that businesses that are owned/controlled by ACU alumni and friends of the university are being contacted as well as fans and supportors. I think I'm glad we are doing this but causes a dilemma for me. My primary interest is men's and women's golf with many other ACU teams as secondary interests. Since I'm a small donor I have to choose what fund my donation will make the largest impact on. Is there an answer for this?
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Post by jaminthebody on May 8, 2024 13:18:04 GMT -6
Here is the link of the new collective with more information and how it helps ACU student-athletes. www.striveoncats.com/
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Post by Outsider on May 8, 2024 14:00:43 GMT -6
Thank you Mavsman. This helps a lot. I assume that businesses that are owned/controlled by ACU alumni and friends of the university are being contacted as well as fans and supportors. I think I'm glad we are doing this but causes a dilemma for me. My primary interest is men's and women's golf with many other ACU teams as secondary interests. Since I'm a small donor I have to choose what fund my donation will make the largest impact on. Is there an answer for this? Bogey, from the FAQ section, "WHAT IF I’M INTERESTED IN GIVING A LARGER CONTRIBUTION?" "Individuals and businesses interested in giving larger contributions can do so via the “one-time contribution" link on the membership page, or can contact us directly at elle@studentathletenil.com to discuss further. Contributions can be specified for specific sports, programs and activations." "CAN I SELECT WHAT SPORT MY CONTRIBUTIONS SUPPORT?" "Yes, anyone who is a member of the collective can denote what sport and their respective student-athletes contributions will be earmarked for. Supporters can also contact us directly to set up activations with their favorite student-athlete(s)."
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Post by Outsider on May 8, 2024 14:21:07 GMT -6
I know that this is the reality of where universities are now. If alumni want to see their schools be competitive, they are going to have to be willing to become more involved. In the past that meant breaking NCAA rules. At least Collectives have taken that out of the shadows and made a place for that to be handled in a businesslike manner. I want to support ACU sports across the board. We already do it with football and basketball season tickets, and Wildcat Club membership donations. I still can't do much, but decided that even small regular contributions to the Collective, on top of the others will help a lot if enough people do it.
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Post by texas48 on May 10, 2024 8:25:06 GMT -6
My question is: Is this going to hurt the overall athletics budget? For instance, if a donor gave regulary to help fund athletics in general, but decides to give to The Collective instead, the money going into athletics has now diminished. For those who have given to athletics in the past to help fund operating costs, travel, etc., The Collective is going to mean giving extra. Right?
Also, "Strive on Cats"? Is that the best name they could come up with?
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Post by Cat_A_holic on May 10, 2024 10:01:34 GMT -6
My question is: Is this going to hurt the overall athletics budget? For instance, if a donor gave regulary to help fund athletics in general, but decides to give to The Collective instead, the money going into athletics has now diminished. For those who have given to athletics in the past to help fund operating costs, travel, etc., The Collective is going to mean giving extra. Right? Also, "Strive on Cats"? Is that the best name they could come up with? In response to Texas48, I'd say: 1) that is inevitalbe, is it not? Not that I think that is necessarily good, but creating collectives doesn't increase the donor base; and 2) Absolutely agree. "Strive on Cats" is only marginally better than the "Scratch 'em Cats" cheer. Both are poorly thought out and basically weak.
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Post by bucfan on May 10, 2024 13:51:09 GMT -6
Glad I'm not the only one that thought the "Strive on Cats" was a little weak. But my imagination couldn't come up with anything great so wasn't going to comment.
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Post by rc on May 10, 2024 14:11:38 GMT -6
I just hope the NIL does not stop the ascension of the University. It is rapidly on the rise and growing more notable on a national level. I want a strong athletic effort and a strong academic profile. We still have work to do on both.
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