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SFA game
Oct 18, 2023 10:06:22 GMT -6
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Post by bogeyman on Oct 18, 2023 10:06:22 GMT -6
SFA played a tight game vs UCA who pummelled us. Are the Jacks that much better than us? How are we health wise? The state of our backfield confuses me. Will Dobbins be back? What happened that Banks and Sunday only played a few snaps? Will Vaughan continue to be used more with X the backup. Do we have a WR who can take pressure off of Taylor? Pullen played a lot Saturday, will he start this week? Carlisle kept saying Coheley was playing MLB, is that true? I thought he was mostly an outside rusher. He plays better and better each week no matter the position. Kicking game continues to shine, will that be the difference this week? Will Young play? I thought we played more of a complete game last week, can we explode vs SFA? Thoughts.
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Post by Outsider on Oct 18, 2023 10:44:03 GMT -6
SFA will probably be without their starting QB Saturday. Maurer was inured in the UCA game. I suppose he could heal quickly enough, but it still depends on how much SFA wants to risk him. Otherwise, Weeks will be taking the snaps. I am not sure that would be a huge difference either way, but could work in our favor. I think a lot of Saturday depends on how well we control the line, how well we tackle and how well we spread the field. We tackled better, but didn't do well with the other two things last weekend. Instead, we excelled in other areas. If we show up and play hard all 4 quarters, we can win. If we don't we will most definitely be 3-4/1-2 after Saturday night.
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Post by bucfan on Oct 18, 2023 11:15:11 GMT -6
My fear is that we will be kicking field goals while SFA will be scoring touchdowns. Thankful we have a good kicker this year but have yet to see our offense look consistent against the better defenses.
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Post by Outsider on Oct 18, 2023 11:41:39 GMT -6
My fear is that we will be kicking field goals while SFA will be scoring touchdowns. Thankful we have a good kicker this year but have yet to see our offense look consistent against the better defenses. If our play callers don't do a better job and we don't execute, you will be correct. We have to open the field and set up the runs and passes better. If McIvor doesn't have anything, he will need to run it for positive yardage. We have been in 3rd and long too many times. Also, clean up the penalties. We are doing a good job protecting the ball. We just need to stay aggressive and not be predictable. **I'll add that hopefully our receivers practiced a lot this week...**
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Post by kjmike1956 on Oct 18, 2023 21:46:14 GMT -6
I just hope that we can snap SFA's win streak against us. They beat us by 3 points in each game last year and we could have just as easily won both of those games.
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Post by kjmike1956 on Oct 18, 2023 21:51:00 GMT -6
The last time we beat SFA was in 2019 when we beat them 31-24 in double overtime. Since then, we lost 1 game by 2 touchdowns and 3 games by a field goal. Hopefully, our kicker will be the difference.
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Post by dry on Oct 19, 2023 8:17:20 GMT -6
SFA played a tight game vs UCA who pummelled us. Are the Jacks that much better than us? How are we health wise? The state of our backfield confuses me. Will Dobbins be back? What happened that Banks and Sunday only played a few snaps? Will Vaughan continue to be used more with X the backup. Do we have a WR who can take pressure off of Taylor? Pullen played a lot Saturday, will he start this week? Carlisle kept saying Coheley was playing MLB, is that true? I thought he was mostly an outside rusher. He plays better and better each week no matter the position. Kicking game continues to shine, will that be the difference this week? Will Young play? I thought we played more of a complete game last week, can we explode vs SFA? Thoughts. I don't think I'd put much into comparing how SFA fared against UCA compared to us. I don't think that game was indicative of anything about us save for we pretty much never showed up. I think when you look at the first half of the UIW game you get a better reflection of who we are or at least can be. I think squandering that game is what paved the way for the UCA debacle. Have no thoughts about the RB and WR situation. I'm confounded as to what happened to Waydale Jones (#8). He had a crazy good game at PV and I don't think I've seen him since... Looks to me like this version of the 3-3-5 loosely has a Mike. They move and shift so much, as well as stunt, that it's hard to tell. It is odd to see Reese outside the hashes over a RB or Slot WR for sure. Cirby is definitely on fire. Reese has a broken hand. I know he's practicing but I guess we'll find out on Saturday if he plays... I'm hoping we can put it all together for sure. I think it's time. I hope the OL dominates the line of scrimmage, we run the RB at will and McIvor is protected well enough to see the field and hit receivers. Need the receivers to catch the stinkin ball, though.
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Post by rc on Oct 19, 2023 10:54:38 GMT -6
Insightful and spot on dry! It has been puzzling that our receiver core drops relatively easy catches yet makes acrobatic ones. And I know we have a running game or could have one, but something is out of wack with it. We seem to run plays with only one option. If the defense is loaded against that option, we still run it, right into their strength. Reminds me of the Cowboys. Dak's check off seems to be to run right between the tackles. What makes Mahomes and KC so good is they exercise a change of plans routinely, they react to the defense and exploit it. We are a bit robotic. Let's get a bit more inventive and have a blow-out win over the Lumberjacks.
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SFA game
Oct 19, 2023 16:53:10 GMT -6
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Post by jCat on Oct 19, 2023 16:53:10 GMT -6
I watched some of the UCA/SFA game, and the Jacks looked like themselves: hulking D-linemen in the center of the D, good athleticism around them, and an offense the features zone-read passing.
I don’t have a lot of confidence that we can control the line of scrimmage either way. I’d settle for being competitive.
We’ll have to play much better than we have or we’ll lose by 17. I hate to be negative, but we’re almost back to the days of having to have everything be perfect to be even in a game.
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SFA game
Oct 20, 2023 8:07:02 GMT -6
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Post by acu38troy35 on Oct 20, 2023 8:07:02 GMT -6
SFA played a tight game vs UCA who pummelled us. Are the Jacks that much better than us? How are we health wise? The state of our backfield confuses me. Will Dobbins be back? What happened that Banks and Sunday only played a few snaps? Will Vaughan continue to be used more with X the backup. Do we have a WR who can take pressure off of Taylor? Pullen played a lot Saturday, will he start this week? Carlisle kept saying Coheley was playing MLB, is that true? I thought he was mostly an outside rusher. He plays better and better each week no matter the position. Kicking game continues to shine, will that be the difference this week? Will Young play? I thought we played more of a complete game last week, can we explode vs SFA? Thoughts. I don't think I'd put much into comparing how SFA fared against UCA compared to us. I don't think that game was indicative of anything about us save for we pretty much never showed up. I think when you look at the first half of the UIW game you get a better reflection of who we are or at least can be. I think squandering that game is what paved the way for the UCA debacle. Have no thoughts about the RB and WR situation. I'm confounded as to what happened to Waydale Jones (#8). He had a crazy good game at PV and I don't think I've seen him since... Looks to me like this version of the 3-3-5 loosely has a Mike. They move and shift so much, as well as stunt, that it's hard to tell. It is odd to see Reese outside the hashes over a RB or Slot WR for sure. Cirby is definitely on fire. Reese has a broken hand. I know he's practicing but I guess we'll find out on Saturday if he plays... I'm hoping we can put it all together for sure. I think it's time. I hope the OL dominates the line of scrimmage, we run the RB at will and McIvor is protected well enough to see the field and hit receivers. Need the receivers to catch the stinkin ball, though. Pretty spot on, in my opinion.
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Post by acu38troy35 on Oct 20, 2023 8:10:22 GMT -6
My fear is that we will be kicking field goals while SFA will be scoring touchdowns. Thankful we have a good kicker this year but have yet to see our offense look consistent against the better defenses. If our play callers don't do a better job and we don't execute, you will be correct. We have to open the field and set up the runs and passes better. If McIvor doesn't have anything, he will need to run it for positive yardage. We have been in 3rd and long too many times. Also, clean up the penalties. We are doing a good job protecting the ball. We just need to stay aggressive and not be predictable. **I'll add that hopefully our receivers practiced a lot this week...** What do you mean by “set up the runs and passes” better? That seems pretty similar to a HS QBs dad yelling in the stands for the OLs to block. What are you actually wanting Pugh to do different? My biggest frustration with the offense is that it appears to me that our players are not confident in what they are doing and at times look confused. As far as the actual play being called I’m not exactly sure what you are looking for…
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SFA game
Oct 20, 2023 9:26:43 GMT -6
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Post by Outsider on Oct 20, 2023 9:26:43 GMT -6
If our play callers don't do a better job and we don't execute, you will be correct. We have to open the field and set up the runs and passes better. If McIvor doesn't have anything, he will need to run it for positive yardage. We have been in 3rd and long too many times. Also, clean up the penalties. We are doing a good job protecting the ball. We just need to stay aggressive and not be predictable. **I'll add that hopefully our receivers practiced a lot this week...** What do you mean by “set up the runs and passes” better? That seems pretty similar to a HS QBs dad yelling in the stands for the OLs to block. What are you actually wanting Pugh to do different? My biggest frustration with the offense is that it appears to me that our players are not confident in what they are doing and at times look confused. As far as the actual play being called I’m not exactly sure what you are looking for… It goes along with spreading the field better and not being predictable, as well as not setting up proper blocking with some of our pass plays. We regularly throw screen passes with no blocker. The receiver is immediately hit by 2-3 defenders. That is often done after several failed runs up the middle. Or, we will throw failed screen passes, with no blockers, followed by failed 30 yard passes when all we needed was 8 yards. In the UNA game in particular, we had way too many 3rd and long situations. So, it's a combination of poor execution and poor play calling. We tend to move the ball better when we do quick short yardage passes and quick crossing routes. Then we mix up the runs in between those. You can call it whatever you want, but I have watched us continually force a game plan that is failing. Every now and then, we back off, mix it up, gain some momentum, then go back to what we were doing before. Our players should never look confused or underconfident. I have seen it though and it often points to uncertainty from the sideline. Other posters have said we often play into our opponents strengths instead of finding key weaknesses and exploiting them effectively. I tend to agree. I didn't think my statement was either difficult to understand or controversial. If you wish to see it as an armchair perspective you can. To some degree it is. This is a fan forum of fans that watch game in and game out, year in and year out. This year we have been inconsistent offensively and I am sure there are multiple reasons on our side as well as good defensive play by our opposing teams. Either way, it puts us in a precarious position against SFA and I am not sure that we aren't less prepared for them this year than we were last year. I hope I am wrong. I just haven't seen positive progression between last year and this year. Maybe I am expecting that progression to be too linear.
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Post by acu38troy35 on Oct 20, 2023 10:22:25 GMT -6
What do you mean by “set up the runs and passes” better? That seems pretty similar to a HS QBs dad yelling in the stands for the OLs to block. What are you actually wanting Pugh to do different? My biggest frustration with the offense is that it appears to me that our players are not confident in what they are doing and at times look confused. As far as the actual play being called I’m not exactly sure what you are looking for… It goes along with spreading the field better and not being predictable, as well as not setting up proper blocking with some of our pass plays. We regularly throw screen passes with no blocker. The receiver is immediately hit by 2-3 defenders. That is often done after several failed runs up the middle. Or, we will throw failed screen passes, with no blockers, followed by failed 30 yard passes when all we needed was 8 yards. In the UNA game in particular, we had way too many 3rd and long situations. So, it's a combination of poor execution and poor play calling. We tend to move the ball better when we do quick short yardage passes and quick crossing routes. Then we mix up the runs in between those. You can call it whatever you want, but I have watched us continually force a game plan that is failing. Every now and then, we back off, mix it up, gain some momentum, then go back to what we were doing before. Our players should never look confused or underconfident. I have seen it though and it often points to uncertainty from the sideline. Other posters have said we often play into our opponents strengths instead of finding key weaknesses and exploiting them effectively. I tend to agree. I didn't think my statement was either difficult to understand or controversial. If you wish to see it as an armchair perspective you can. To some degree it is. This is a fan forum of fans that watch game in and game out, year in and year out. This year we have been inconsistent offensively and I am sure there are multiple reasons on our side as well as good defensive play by our opposing teams. Either way, it puts us in a precarious position against SFA and I am not sure that we aren't less prepared for them this year than we were last year. I hope I am wrong. I just haven't seen positive progression between last year and this year. Maybe I am expecting that progression to be too linear. There is a difference between execution and the play call itself. A “failed run up the middle”, a “failed screen pass” where the lineman don’t get out in space (which happens quite often in any offense on any level), or a “failed 30 yard throw” is not indicative of the play call itself. Our very first play against UNT was a beautiful quick screen that he tried to come back to a few times. I think a serious argument can be made that simplifying and moving at a faster pace would be beneficial. Obviously, I agree that our offense has struggled and that is always going to fall at the feet of the OC, just don’t really agree that the play calling itself is the problem. Philosophy? Maybe. Execution? For sure. Personnel? Probably. I want to climb under my seat when I see Maverick and receivers arguing with each other about a pre-snap motion as the play clock ticks to 0. I agree with you in that I don’t believe we are in a good position right now to score enough points to beat SFA in East Texas just like I had a bad feeling about the Rangers last night. But hope springs eternal.
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Post by rc on Oct 20, 2023 13:59:12 GMT -6
We have more athletic talent than three+ years ago in the prior regime, but we have become predictable, both on offense and defense. The 3-3-5 does not seem to produce a more effective defense as well. So, the upcoming game with SFA takes on a more serious aspect. If our current plans fail to produce against the Lumberjacks, then one would think it is time to try some new ideas, but I have no idea what those might be, it just seems we have to learn something from the game. All the talk about our OL earlier in the season does not mean much if we run or pass wide with no blockers and wind-up 2nd and long or 3rd and long. This game just seems like a critical point in time for the team. The outcome likely means we finish the season about the same as last year or if we lose, we slip a notch in the wrong direction. The best hope is we win convincingly and the system the team has built is starting to work -- in which case recruiting and transfer portal wins are easier. If we lose, I suspect recruiting is a bit more difficult and the excitement about our new era of football will dim a bit. Early on, I circled the SFA game in my head as a time when we would need to step up and play great, or it would mean we are going to need to restart the building process. So, let's see a great win.
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SFA game
Oct 21, 2023 11:18:24 GMT -6
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Post by bogeyman on Oct 21, 2023 11:18:24 GMT -6
Anyone with any last insights on the game today. Hoping we are at full strength or close to. Big game for our DL.
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