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Post by bucfan on Jun 11, 2024 8:00:30 GMT -6
We better have greatly improved our team from last year to give any kind of payback to Tarleton or SFA. Looking at some of the guys they have picked up in the portal, they seem to have made more improvements than we have. But that is on paper. We'll see what happens on the field.
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Post by Cap'n on Jun 11, 2024 9:19:14 GMT -6
We have a big boy schedule. I expect we will be picked 5th or 6th in the conference. Texas Tech is our easiest game …😂
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Post by Outsider on Jun 11, 2024 9:46:40 GMT -6
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Post by johnnyutah on Jun 12, 2024 11:41:02 GMT -6
Stone Earle has left North Texas.
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Post by bucfan on Jun 12, 2024 11:51:37 GMT -6
Stone Earle has left North Texas. I never understood his decision to stay. After poor showings last year, fans and commentators seemed to have no interest in him being their QB. Why stay where you aren't wanted? He needs a chance for a fresh start somewhere.
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Post by mavsman53 on Jun 12, 2024 12:40:43 GMT -6
Stone is a good young man. He attended the church I work at in Abilene. Several factors played out in his decision to leave.
1. FBS or FCS 2. Girlfriend closer to home 3. New coaching staff here
So he went to UNT, was a part-time starter and then hit the portal again. Not long after that, he announced he was coming back to ACU. But then the other QB, Chandler Rogers, also entered the portal. Rogers was for sure gone the moment he entered the portal. UNT likely told Stone he would once again have a chance to win the starting job; so he came back to UNT. Weeks later, they pick up 2 FBS transfer QB's: Chandler Morris from TCU and Reese Mooney from Liberty. Mooney has already entered the portal and transferred to ULM. I think the moment Morris got there, he was going to be the starter at UNT.
What I don't know is how he can enter the portal now without a waiver. The deadline to enter has passed. But if he did get a waiver to play, yes I would expect ACU to be interested
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Post by dallasalum on Jun 12, 2024 16:12:38 GMT -6
My two cents worth. Not speaking directly to Stone's situation nor being critical of anyone but I think that a lot of these athletes would be much better off in the long haul to pick a school that they want to attend when they leave high school, stay there, make some good friends, and get an education. All of the bouncing around robs them of any real college experience. Of course, every competitive athlete thinks that he is better than he really is and wants to play, not practice and watch.
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Post by Cap'n on Jun 13, 2024 19:47:53 GMT -6
I don’t throw it all on the athlete. I have no doubt that UNT was not entirely honest with Stone. Had he come to ACU this spring, I would bet that he would be the starter. But now, I don’t think he starts here either if he comes.
What should have been an outstanding FCS career was messed up by one terrible coach at ACU and a couple of less than honest coaches at UNT. I hope he can go somewhere and get a grad degree on somebody else’s nickel but I think D1 football is probably over for him.
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Post by rc on Jun 13, 2024 21:06:24 GMT -6
Dallasalum and Cap'n are both right in my opinion. The NCAA has created a less than optimal situation for young student/athletes who will have 10+ times more life outside of college sports than inside. Sure, there are the occasional exceptional athletes that turn pro and make careers and money but the percentages are not good for that possibility. And even then, an injury ends a lot of athletic careers. I always think of Johnny Knox who I thought would have a fine pro career. College is a time to mature and develop the skills to do well in this world, to get an advantage and prepare to utilize it. That process is better in my opinion when the student/athlete finds a home university and builds character and knowledge for their future, and if that is in pro sports, the professional teams will find them. There are try-outs and many pros who attended universities other than power five. Go ahead and be exceptional in sports and you will be discovered!
I am not advocating seeking a low-quality university and easy program of study, I am suggesting that a coherent, quality education is invaluable and the odds are not too good for that when a young person bounces around through four or even five schools, more concerned with where their athletic ability fits best. Life is not going to be like that. A person has to make the best of the opportunities they have and aim for success, adapting to what it takes to develop their abilities and maturity. I just think the idea of a part-time dedication to a commitment to a university is not optimal and the NCAA has not had student's best welfare in mind when they created the revolving door portal. Some will obviously disagree with this but at least this point of view should be considered.
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Post by dallasalum on Jun 14, 2024 12:51:50 GMT -6
Dallasalum and Cap'n are both right in my opinion. The NCAA has created a less than optimal situation for young student/athletes who will have 10+ times more life outside of college sports than inside. Sure, there are the occasional exceptional athletes that turn pro and make careers and money but the percentages are not good for that possibility. And even then, an injury ends a lot of athletic careers. I always think of Johnny Knox who I thought would have a fine pro career. College is a time to mature and develop the skills to do well in this world, to get an advantage and prepare to utilize it. That process is better in my opinion when the student/athlete finds a home university and builds character and knowledge for their future, and if that is in pro sports, the professional teams will find them. There are try-outs and many pros who attended universities other than power five. Go ahead and be exceptional in sports and you will be discovered! I am not advocating seeking a low-quality university and easy program of study, I am suggesting that a coherent, quality education is invaluable and the odds are not too good for that when a young person bounces around through four or even five schools, more concerned with where their athletic ability fits best. Life is not going to be like that. A person has to make the best of the opportunities they have and aim for success, adapting to what it takes to develop their abilities and maturity. I just think the idea of a part-time dedication to a commitment to a university is not optimal and the NCAA has not had student's best welfare in mind when they created the revolving door portal. Some will obviously disagree with this but at least this point of view should be considered. Two players who went to the U. of Alabama are proof of what you said. Wilbert Montgomery and Taylor Gabriel. And there are dozens of others.
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Post by acutrackfan on Jun 14, 2024 13:23:49 GMT -6
I went on SFAJacks.com to see how they were looking at the game that they took from us. In that article, it was noted that the ACU-SFA game in 2024 is the from end of a home-and-home -- they will come back to play ACU in Abilene in September, 2025. It was also noted that ACU will play home-and-home b-ball games against the ACU men in both the 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 seasons. I like this situation just a little bit better (although I obviously wish the fb home-and-home brought them to Abilene THIS year). Still, there is a pretty good rivalry between the 2 schools and this will preserve that rivalry for 2 more school years.
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Post by fenton on Jun 14, 2024 15:20:41 GMT -6
dallasalum, Wilbert Montgomery briefly enrolled at Jackson State but was discouraged by the prospect of little playing time behind Walter Payton, and left during summer workouts to attend and play four years at ACU instead. Gabriel played all four years for ACU following all-state honors at John Horn HS in Mesquite. I'm not aware that he spent any time with the Crimson Tide. Either of them was talented enough to play at the Power 5 level, however.
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Post by Outsider on Jun 14, 2024 15:28:41 GMT -6
I went on SFAJacks.com to see how they were looking at the game that they took from us. In that article, it was noted that the ACU-SFA game in 2024 is the from end of a home-and-home -- they will come back to play ACU in Abilene in September, 2025. It was also noted that ACU will play home-and-home b-ball games against the ACU men in both the 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 seasons. I like this situation just a little bit better (although I obviously wish the fb home-and-home brought them to Abilene THIS year). Still, there is a pretty good rivalry between the 2 schools and this will preserve that rivalry for 2 more school years. They still owed us a home game, end of story. Yeah, I like the rivalry ok but Tarleton is actually a better one. They don't care who they cancelled games with. They are fine with their new schedule and many are happy now that they can see more away games that will be closer. I am still happy we retained a DI schedule, but would have actually liked to have had the opportunity to see us be able to play a team we don't normally get to play, which is why I was hoping we could have enticed a PL team with the money paid to us by SFA. That entails a two to tango scenario but would have still been nice. You want to know what would have been REALLY cool? An Ivy matchup would have been historical, but alas no real openings and no real incentive. Anyway, I am just ready for the season.
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Post by dallasalum on Jun 14, 2024 16:44:46 GMT -6
dallasalum, Wilbert Montgomery briefly enrolled at Jackson State but was discouraged by the prospect of little playing time behind Walter Payton, and left during summer workouts to attend and play four years at ACU instead. Gabriel played all four years for ACU following all-state honors at John Horn HS in Mesquite. I'm not aware that he spent any time with the Crimson Tide. Either of them was talented enough to play at the Power 5 level, however. I am fully aware of those facts. Was being facetious.
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Post by rc on Jun 15, 2024 14:23:08 GMT -6
I went on SFAJacks.com to see how they were looking at the game that they took from us. In that article, it was noted that the ACU-SFA game in 2024 is the from end of a home-and-home -- they will come back to play ACU in Abilene in September, 2025. It was also noted that ACU will play home-and-home b-ball games against the ACU men in both the 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 seasons. I like this situation just a little bit better (although I obviously wish the fb home-and-home brought them to Abilene THIS year). Still, there is a pretty good rivalry between the 2 schools and this will preserve that rivalry for 2 more school years. They still owed us a home game, end of story. Yeah, I like the rivalry ok but Tarleton is actually a better one. They don't care who they cancelled games with. They are fine with their new schedule and many are happy now that they can see more away games that will be closer. I am still happy we retained a DI schedule, but would have actually liked to have had the opportunity to see us be able to play a team we don't normally get to play, which is why I was hoping we could have enticed a PL team with the money paid to us by SFA. That entails a two to tango scenario but would have still been nice. You want to know what would have been REALLY cool? An Ivy matchup would have been historical, but alas no real openings and no real incentive. Anyway, I am just ready for the season. It was super cool when our baseball team took the series with Penn State last season. <====Bad mistake, it was U. Penn. This getting old is tough, but thanks for pointing out the error.
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