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Post by wildcat1997 on Jan 8, 2017 23:36:53 GMT -6
He may have a bunch of PWO offers but he doesn't have any scholarship offers. That says something to me. I'm glad you connected on Twitter with this kid but I'm going to assume none of us have ever seen a game of his, nor have the coaches, and his film really isn't that impressive imho (considering Oregon isn't known for its high school football). sure he's huge and sure he's friendly on twitter but realistically a new coaching staff with limited time and scholarships and planning for visits and travel are not gonna bring in a kid from Oregon. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd be surprised. Maybe he ends up being All-American somewhere, but I bet there are kids like him in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Louisiana. Yeah you're probably not wrong, I just thought he might have been a good guy to bring in since he would've been easy to get and it seems like he would've been a good developmental prospect.
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Post by catattax on Jan 8, 2017 23:48:49 GMT -6
There is also the chance he just hasn't reported any offers. If that many FBS schools are showing interest in him there has to be something there. We are an FCS school so we should probably take a chance on a recruit that has so much FBS interest. Most FCS recruits don't even get one FBS PWO spot and he has quite a few, from some pretty good programs. Like 82 said we can get him if we want him so why not take a chance on him?
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jan 9, 2017 7:14:08 GMT -6
It may happen. There will be lots of "film watching" as the staff evaluates the talent we have coming back. We still don't know who is an academic casualty (Dorrel does)and what he thinks of the players who are coming back. We may have positions that we feel are strengths (numbers of players) that the staff may think won't make it under them. Lots of attrition or maybe very little. Time will tell. When they see who actually reports to class next week and coaches meet with all the players then we'll start seeing the real direction our recruiting will take. It's good that Jackson already has a feel for what he will have on defense but experience tells me we may lose some of those players. We already have 7 returning OL who played lots last year and 5 more who redshirted and/or were on the roster. Now we've offered 3 more, with 2 seemingly committed. That's 14 on the roster and committed and we've got several more we are looking at. We have 2, count em--2 RB (not counting Miller a starting WR) and one has been often injured. I'd think RB ought to get lots of attention and lots of offers before many more OL are offered. Just my opinion. Two assuming Clayburn isn't returning, three if he enrolls. Even with three we really need another RB in this class. RB''s take pounding and are often injured.
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Post by bogeyman on Jan 9, 2017 8:00:27 GMT -6
3? We need 7-8 who can play. I'd be comfortable with 5 on the roster and 2 or 3 more who were walk ons or red shirting. We were extremely lucky last year that Duncan stepped up his game and stayed healthy. Why not have 2 RB'S in every recruiting class? If Dorrel goes to a power run game injuries are inevitable. We need to be stocked at RB just like Collums stocked WO's.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jan 9, 2017 8:04:02 GMT -6
3? We need 7-8 who can play. I'd be comfortable with 5 on the roster and 2 or 3 more who were walk ons or red shirting. We were extremely lucky last year that Duncan stepped up his game and stayed healthy. Why not have 2 RB'S in every recruiting class? If Dorrel goes to a power run game injuries are inevitable. We need to be stocked at RB just like Collums stocked WO's. I"m not disagreeing with you. Jest saying we might have 3 instead of 2 coming back. I'd rather have a minimum of 5 or more, for sure.
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Post by mavsman53 on Jan 9, 2017 8:32:50 GMT -6
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Post by bogeyman on Jan 9, 2017 8:46:39 GMT -6
I liked Connelly ' s film. Looks like a good prospect to me. Seemed to me that he really understands the game. Puts people on their backs when needed, overpowers on other plays. Has good presence on which way his man needs to be turned on a block.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jan 9, 2017 8:51:44 GMT -6
It may happen. There will be lots of "film watching" as the staff evaluates the talent we have coming back. We still don't know who is an academic casualty (Dorrel does)and what he thinks of the players who are coming back. We may have positions that we feel are strengths (numbers of players) that the staff may think won't make it under them. Lots of attrition or maybe very little. Time will tell. When they see who actually reports to class next week and coaches meet with all the players then we'll start seeing the real direction our recruiting will take. It's good that Jackson already has a feel for what he will have on defense but experience tells me we may lose some of those players. We already have 7 returning OL who played lots last year and 5 more who redshirted and/or were on the roster. Now we've offered 3 more, with 2 seemingly committed. That's 14 on the roster and committed and we've got several more we are looking at. We have 2, count em--2 RB (not counting Miller a starting WR) and one has been often injured. I'd think RB ought to get lots of attention and lots of offers before many more OL are offered. Just my opinion. I only count 6 returning OL who "played lots last year." And 14 may sound like a lot right now, but it really isn't. At this time last year we thought we had almost our entire OL (starters and backups) returning with a couple recruits committed to us; however, by the time the season came around in the fall, several had dropped off. We really thought we were in good shape and had about 15 OL that would be here and ready to go once fall camp got here. However, by the time fall camp came around, we had lost several with significant experience for various reasons, and the 15 we thought we had turned into considerably less, with almost half of them having little to no college football experience. So, "14 on the roster and committed" is not near as many as it sounds right now. That said, RB is absolutely a top priority as well.
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Post by wildcatter on Jan 9, 2017 8:58:09 GMT -6
There is also the chance he just hasn't reported any offers. If that many FBS schools are showing interest in him there has to be something there. We are an FCS school so we should probably take a chance on a recruit that has so much FBS interest. Most FCS recruits don't even get one FBS PWO spot and he has quite a few, from some pretty good programs. Like 82 said we can get him if we want him so why not take a chance on him? Because scholarships are very valuable and 'taking a chance' is not as easy of a thing to do with a program like ours where every scholarship should be extremely valued. We won 2 games last year. I thought we had an ex-OL on the board, maybe he can comment. But as mentioned, I wasn't impressed by the film. Just to take it another step, there is a kid from Eastland, less than an hour away, that is 6'6 290 and is committed to Illinois St. There is no reason this kid should be headed up to Illinois instead of coming to ACU (unless the new coaches don't find him to be up to par) and his film is just as impressive or more so than the kid from Oregon. Not only that, but considering our recruiting budget and time frame is minimal, it's a lot easier to go after someone in our backyard.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jan 9, 2017 9:03:28 GMT -6
There is also the chance he just hasn't reported any offers. If that many FBS schools are showing interest in him there has to be something there. We are an FCS school so we should probably take a chance on a recruit that has so much FBS interest. Most FCS recruits don't even get one FBS PWO spot and he has quite a few, from some pretty good programs. Like 82 said we can get him if we want him so why not take a chance on him? Because scholarships are very valuable and 'taking a chance' is not as easy of a thing to do with a program like ours where every scholarship should be extremely valued. We won 2 games last year. I thought we had an ex-OL on the board, maybe he can comment. But as mentioned, I wasn't impressed by the film. Just to take it another step, there is a kid from Eastland, less than an hour away, that is 6'6 290 and is committed to Illinois St. There is no reason this kid should be headed up to Illinois instead of coming to ACU (unless the new coaches don't find him to be up to par) and his film is just as impressive or more so than the kid from Oregon. Not only that, but considering our recruiting budget and time frame is minimal, it's a lot easier to go after someone in our backyard. Wildcatter, I completely agree with you. "Taking a chance" is not easy with the limited number of scholarships. And to say "we can get him if we want him" certainly does not mean we should offer someone a scholarship. There are thousands of athletes that will not get any D-1 offers that we could get if we wanted them, but that does not mean we offer them. I really don't know anything about the kid, but the argument that we could get someone just because they want to come here should not mean we should offer them. And to catattax' point that there is a chance he just hasn't reported any offers... if he is tweeting every PWO offer the way he is, then there is zero chance he has a full offer that he has just not reported.
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Post by mavsman53 on Jan 9, 2017 9:36:30 GMT -6
Today-Thursday is a dead period. If you need a refresher on what that means, check out page 3. However, I expect this weekend (trying to get confirmation) will be our first weekend that players will come in for an official visit.
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Post by mavsman53 on Jan 9, 2017 11:27:16 GMT -6
This Saturday and Sunday will start the official visits on campus.
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jan 9, 2017 12:00:51 GMT -6
I compared Padget to Porter on film. No doubt there probably won't be a scholarship for Porter unless Padget goes somewhere else. Pretty big difference.
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Post by wildcat1997 on Jan 9, 2017 12:12:06 GMT -6
I think if Padgett commits then we'll probably go after more one O-lineman and it likely won't be Porter. We'll probably look for 3 more RBs and maybe some DBs, especially CBs.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jan 9, 2017 13:23:36 GMT -6
I think if Padgett commits then we'll probably go after more one O-lineman and it likely won't be Porter. We'll probably look for 3 more RBs and maybe some DBs, especially CBs. I'm guessing we may try to find 1 or 2 transfers for the OL as well. Wouldn't hurt to have some competition for starting jobs and some experienced depth.
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