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Post by rc on Nov 29, 2020 20:09:30 GMT -6
I am digesting what it means to have a 7 footer be the tourney MVP in an event with some decent mid majors. I am not sure how much maturation this season has created but this is good news. No telling what effect this might have on his game and how this could uplift the whole team. Kolten and Clay together on the team means we also have more really good players up and down the roster, more talent and depth that maybe any of us realized -- at least me. I am thrilled to see us in this position. Typically I am cautious about over hyping a team I care about, but it sure would be a nice thing if this team realizes the potential it has. We have size, outside shooting, great defense, strength, and more. Now we just need to take it a game at a time. I am reminded of a great saying, "It just takes a little more to be first class."
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Post by rc on Nov 30, 2020 13:50:00 GMT -6
New RPI rating... this one is a bit more realistic but still, ACU is at number six!!! Not sure Tarlton State should be ahead of Baylor. Hmmmm... BTW, betting line that we make the NCAA tournament is sitting at 43%
Men's Basketball - Team RPIs (2020-2021)
NCAA College Basketball RPI Rankings & Ratings 2020
More Rankings...
Season:
2020-2021
Date:
11/30/2020
Rank Team Rating Hi Low Last
1 Gonzaga (2-0) 0.875 1 29 1
2 W Virginia (3-0) 0.819 2 27 2
3 Ohio State (2-0) 0.788 3 83 83
4 Villanova (2-1) 0.775 1 11 3
5 Richmond (2-0) 0.760 5 103 103
6 Abl Christian (3-0) 0.722 4 215 5
7 UCLA (1-1) 0.719 5 79 7
8 Houston (3-0) 0.708 8 91 91
9 Illinois St (1-1) 0.694 9 249 220
10 San Diego St (2-0) 0.688 7 33 8
11 Clemson (2-0) 0.688 5 77 6
12 Army (2-0) 0.688 9 248 9
13 Purdue (1-1) 0.667 6 101 101
14 Tulane (2-0) 0.646 14 213 213
15 Norfolk St (2-0) 0.646 15 284 231
16 Michigan (2-0) 0.641 16 86 86
17 VCU (2-1) 0.639 10 99 10
18 Austin Peay (2-1) 0.639 6 184 11
19 Xavier (3-0) 0.635 4 41 15
20 Iowa (2-0) 0.625 11 48 12
21 Illinois (3-0) 0.625 9 29 13
22 Saint Louis (2-0) 0.625 14 99 14
23 St Johns (2-0) 0.625 14 71 16
24 Belmont (2-0) 0.625 17 118 17
25 Santa Clara (3-0) 0.625 18 173 18
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Post by SportsWizard15 on Nov 30, 2020 19:57:56 GMT -6
ACU is Ranked at 24th in Mid Major top 25
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Post by bogeyman on Nov 30, 2020 20:21:57 GMT -6
Hard to believe Austin Peay still ranked so much higher than we are. Oh well, I'm really glad we Wildcat fans have a team (actually 2 teams) that have a chance to be special. Glad folks are talking about us and not in a derisive way.
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Post by Cap'n on Nov 30, 2020 20:30:22 GMT -6
Mid major madness doesn’t have us ranked at all. AP is at 21. I guess blowing up a ranked team doesn’t count for much.
On the other hand, we are now on the radar.
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Post by rc on Nov 30, 2020 21:03:41 GMT -6
I could not find a mid major poll that had up to date rankings. Austin Peay was #11 and #21 in a couple of polls so they are "dated." On three or four polls, SFA is ranked, but now the RPI has us winning conference over SFA. I guess we need a dozen games or so before things start settling down.
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Post by wildcatter on Nov 30, 2020 22:16:36 GMT -6
We are three games in. Plenty of time for things to iron out.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Dec 1, 2020 3:26:26 GMT -6
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Dec 1, 2020 4:04:37 GMT -6
I could not find a mid major poll that had up to date rankings. Austin Peay was #11 and #21 in a couple of polls so they are "dated." On three or four polls, SFA is ranked, but now the RPI has us winning conference over SFA. I guess we need a dozen games or so before things start settling down. In the end only NET/RPI ratings matter when the playoff committee seeds tournament teams. Polls are for bragging rights among fans but aren’t considered by the committee.
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Post by rc on Dec 1, 2020 8:39:11 GMT -6
I could not find a mid major poll that had up to date rankings. Austin Peay was #11 and #21 in a couple of polls so they are "dated." On three or four polls, SFA is ranked, but now the RPI has us winning conference over SFA. I guess we need a dozen games or so before things start settling down. In the end only NET/RPI ratings matter when the playoff committee seeds tournament teams. Polls are for bragging rights among fans but aren’t considered by the committee. good to know
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Post by TNcatman on Dec 1, 2020 10:25:33 GMT -6
Why are we playing teams like HPU, McMurry and HSU? Does it have to do with COVID? These games are definitely not going to help us in rankings.
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Post by Outsider on Dec 1, 2020 11:18:26 GMT -6
Why are we playing teams like HPU, McMurry and HSU? Does it have to do with COVID? These games are definitely not going to help us in rankings. It's probably due to what we can pay to have OOC teams come and play us in Abilene.
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Post by bogeyman on Dec 1, 2020 11:18:28 GMT -6
Evan from TV sports answers that in a post from Womens basketball thread. With our historic low budget for basketball those are the only teams we can get to come to Abilene to play.
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Post by acutrackfan on Dec 1, 2020 12:19:18 GMT -6
Why are we playing teams like HPU, McMurry and HSU? Does it have to do with COVID? These games are definitely not going to help us in rankings. This particular year, COVID has a lot to do with it. ACU had some other D-2 and low-level schools lined up to come to Abilene and COVID cancelled those games (plus the later season start) However, the big challenge will always come down to the economics in bringing in a good D-1 squad to play us in basketball. Occasionally, we have been able to bring in a D-1 squad -- usually when they are playing another team in Texas. Cal-Riverside was playing Tech, for instance, and ACU latched onto them for a bargain basement D-1 opponent (probably around $50,000). I read an article recently on the economics of the "buy game" -- where a writer researched state schools (which have to divulge info like this) and how much they paid for teams to come play non-conference games against them. There were some very interesting numbers in the article (which was written last year)): -The most common "buy game" fee is $90,000 for a D-1 team to come play you. -The highest buy game in his research was the $150,000 guarantee to GA Tech to come play Kentucky -HBU got $115,000 that season to play Tech! -There were 41 games among the schools he researched that paid out six-figure guarantees -UC-Riverside had a money-paying trifecta -- they were paid $110,000 to play at Nebraska; paid $85,000 to play Fresno State; and paid $70,000 to play San Jose State (in-state games are usually lower payouts) -Kentucky paid Evansville $90,000 to come upset them. Duke paid SFA $100,000 to come beat them in Cameron So, let's say that ACU wanted to seriously upgrade our non-conference home schedule. Last year (the last "normal" year for comparison), ACU played 6 home non-conference games -- 2 D-1 schools (Lipscomb and SEMO); 1 D-III school (Howard Payne); and 3 NCCAA schools (Arlington Baptist, Champion Christian, and Dallas Christian). Let's say that ACU tries to get 4 D-1 schools with going rate of $90,000 and 2 non-D-1 schools, preferably D-2 schools or high-level NAIA at around $25-30,000. We need a donor who would cough up around $400,000-$450,000 and we could do it. Better yet, get a $10 million endowment in place and we could upgrade our basketball non-conference every year. The women's team could do the same for less money. Last year, ACU played 6 non-conference home games -- 2 D-1 games (Tulsa and NM State); 3 D-III schools (McMurry, HPU and Schreiner) and 1 NAIA school (U of the Southwest). ACU could probably get 4 D-1 schools and 2 D-2 home games for around $280,000 -- less than $6.5 million in an endowment.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Dec 1, 2020 12:33:20 GMT -6
Why are we playing teams like HPU, McMurry and HSU? Does it have to do with COVID? These games are definitely not going to help us in rankings. This particular year, COVID has a lot to do with it. ACU had some other D-2 and low-level schools lined up to come to Abilene and COVID cancelled those games (plus the later season start) However, the big challenge will always come down to the economics in bringing in a good D-1 squad to play us in basketball. Occasionally, we have been able to bring in a D-1 squad -- usually when they are playing another team in Texas. Cal-Riverside was playing Tech, for instance, and ACU latched onto them for a bargain basement D-1 opponent (probably around $50,000). I read an article recently on the economics of the "buy game" -- where a writer researched state schools (which have to divulge info like this) and how much they paid for teams to come play non-conference games against them. There were some very interesting numbers in the article (which was written last year)): -The most common "buy game" fee is $90,000 for a D-1 team to come play you. -The highest buy game in his research was the $150,000 guarantee to GA Tech to come play Kentucky -HBU got $115,000 that season to play Tech! -There were 41 games among the schools he researched that paid out six-figure guarantees -UC-Riverside had a money-paying trifecta -- they were paid $110,000 to play at Nebraska; paid $85,000 to play Fresno State; and paid $70,000 to play San Jose State (in-state games are usually lower payouts) -Kentucky paid Evansville $90,000 to come upset them. Duke paid SFA $100,000 to come beat them in Cameron So, let's say that ACU wanted to seriously upgrade our non-conference home schedule. Last year (the last "normal" year for comparison), ACU played 6 home non-conference games -- 2 D-1 schools (Lipscomb and SEMO); 1 D-III school (Howard Payne); and 3 NCCAA schools (Arlington Baptist, Champion Christian, and Dallas Christian). Let's say that ACU tries to get 4 D-1 schools with going rate of $90,000 and 2 non-D-1 schools, preferably D-2 schools or high-level NAIA at around $25-30,000. We need a donor who would cough up around $400,000-$450,000 and we could do it. Better yet, get a $10 million endowment in place and we could upgrade our basketball non-conference every year. The women's team could do the same for less money. Last year, ACU played 6 non-conference home games -- 2 D-1 games (Tulsa and NM State); 3 D-III schools (McMurry, HPU and Schreiner) and 1 NAIA school (U of the Southwest). ACU could probably get 4 D-1 schools and 2 D-2 home games for around $280,000 -- less than $6.5 million in an endowment. Let’s say we scheduled two home games against D1 opponents and generated the money we would need to pay them with revenue from D1 schools that pay us for away games. Is there a reason an arrangement such as this this wouldn’t work? In addition to hurting RPI it is hard to generate much enthusiasm for buying season tickets to watch a home schedule made up exclusively of NAIA and D2 teams.
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