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Post by CrazyPurpleCat on Nov 21, 2021 18:08:21 GMT -6
People may not like it but I’d take Art Briles. People want: - a winner - someone who can recruit - someone with ACU ties who went to school here Art checks those boxes. This might get some jeers, but if we are okay hiring a coach who helped to cultivate a culture of cover-ups, sexual assault, and willful ignorance, then we really have our priorities severely out-of-wack. Let me be clear. The man is partially responsible for protecting rapists. I am all for forgiveness and grace, but that does not at all mean putting this man back in a position of power such as he once had. I agree there would be some issues even more present than just the natural PR issues of Briles, and you mentioned it right on the head with the LGBTQ+ hiring policies they have. ACU is in the wrong on that by far.
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 21, 2021 18:15:38 GMT -6
This might get some jeers, but if we are okay hiring a coach who helped to cultivate a culture of cover-ups, sexual assault, and willful ignorance, then we really have our priorities severely out-of-wack. Let me be clear. The man is partially responsible for protecting rapists. I am all for forgiveness and grace, but that does not at all mean putting this man back in a position of power such as he once had. I agree there would be some issues even more present than just the natural PR issues of Briles, and you mentioned it right on the head with the LGBTQ+ hiring policies they have. ACU is in the wrong on that by far. I'm currently a graduate student at the University of Houston and let me tell you the complete and utter embarrassment I have felt talking with other students and faculty about ACU and the first thing they bring up isn't basketball or track or anything else. It is the inhospitable culture on campus towards LGBTQ+ and minorities in general.
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Post by bogeyman on Nov 21, 2021 18:18:44 GMT -6
Will a search committee be publically named?
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Post by oldtimecat on Nov 21, 2021 18:31:17 GMT -6
Will a search committee be publically named? The firm Eastman & Beaudine is heading the search. The hope is to have coach named by first of year. I would assume early signing period is out.
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Post by CrazyPurpleCat on Nov 21, 2021 18:33:12 GMT -6
I agree there would be some issues even more present than just the natural PR issues of Briles, and you mentioned it right on the head with the LGBTQ+ hiring policies they have. ACU is in the wrong on that by far. I'm currently a graduate student at the University of Houston and let me tell you the complete and utter embarrassment I have felt talking with other students and faculty about ACU and the first thing they bring up isn't basketball or track or anything else. It is the inhospitable culture on campus towards LGBTQ+ and minorities in general. Unfortunately, I don’t doubt that one bit, and it is unfortunate that is the case
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Post by jCat on Nov 21, 2021 18:50:13 GMT -6
I hope the search firm will look at a diverse pool of candidates, but I agree that previous experience in D1 and a strong recruiting background (in our state and beyond) is needed.
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Post by jaminthebody on Nov 21, 2021 19:06:46 GMT -6
I agree there would be some issues even more present than just the natural PR issues of Briles, and you mentioned it right on the head with the LGBTQ+ hiring policies they have. ACU is in the wrong on that by far. I'm currently a graduate student at the University of Houston and let me tell you the complete and utter embarrassment I have felt talking with other students and faculty about ACU and the first thing they bring up isn't basketball or track or anything else. It is the inhospitable culture on campus towards LGBTQ+ and minorities in general. I’m not understating ACU’s history of discrimination. There was a troubling past. From what I have seen, the university has improved anti-discrimination very much. The irony of the point of view of many of your colleagues is that the University of Houston has had a suit filed because of discrimination in the last month. I am unaware of any current cases against ACU. I know there was a couple hired about 3 or 4 years ago that did not adhere to ACU’s policies, and asked to leave when that was revealed. But is there any school in America that doesn’t treat one group of students or faculty better or worse than another group? I know we should have a higher standard than any other school, but my opinion is that when most academics see or hear the word Christian, they automatically think discrimination. A lot of that is rational, but we’re not Liberty. Because this is a coaching thread, I will try not to comment any more on this off-topic discussion.
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Post by bogeyman on Nov 21, 2021 19:28:34 GMT -6
I'm trying to get my head around the inclusion of Chris Thomsen. I loved him when he was here before but lot's have changed since then. Could he still attract the superior talent he attracted back then? Do our academic standards really negate our getting superior athletes (are all great, talented athletes poor students?)? Under Chris we had a great OL, good QB's, speed in the backfield and at receiver, TE's who were part of the offense--however, I think I can say "we were a little defense deficient." He also had his bro-in-law as an OC. He piques my interest. Will he be a candidate?
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Post by mavsman53 on Nov 21, 2021 19:42:31 GMT -6
Do I think Briles would come to ACU? Yes
Do I think he would win here? Yes
Would it be a media nightmare? Overwhelmingly Yes
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Post by wildchat on Nov 21, 2021 20:03:12 GMT -6
Braxton Harris. Took over an 0-10 Howard Payne program in 2017 and turned that program around. Is responsible for recruiting the athletes that allowed Howard Payne to win 7 games this year and recruited this years offensive player of the year in the ASC. Currently the Linebackers Coach at Campbell University where he is also the recruiting coordinator. Defensively, Campbell is #4 in Nation in Defensive TD’s, #7 in Nation in Fumbles Recovered, #19 in Nation in INT’s, #4 in Nation in Turnovers Gained. As recruiting coordinator, he is responsible for building a class that is currently ranked #1 in FCS and boasts 6 3-star commitments from 4 different states. Also the son of a Texas high school football coach who is plugged in to high school coaches in the state.
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Post by acuwildcat86 on Nov 21, 2021 20:16:42 GMT -6
Do I think Briles would come to ACU? Yes Do I think he would win here? Yes Would it be a media nightmare? Overwhelmingly Yes I do not have a dog in this fight, but as far as I understand it Briles reported the problem to the President. It was the President who chose to ignore it. Then Briles took the fall, and a huge payday to stay quiet. He’s since spoken out and told exactly that, but no one believes him. I’ve heard from others that was true. So what more could he have done when he discovered the problem? He reported it. And was overruled. And fired shortly thereafter.
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Post by acuwildcat86 on Nov 21, 2021 20:18:11 GMT -6
As far as future coaches, I have no knowledge but I think Thomsen would be the perfect fit! I doubt he would be interested, though.
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 21, 2021 20:19:23 GMT -6
I'm currently a graduate student at the University of Houston and let me tell you the complete and utter embarrassment I have felt talking with other students and faculty about ACU and the first thing they bring up isn't basketball or track or anything else. It is the inhospitable culture on campus towards LGBTQ+ and minorities in general. I’m not understating ACU’s history of discrimination. There was a troubling past. From what I have seen, the university has improved anti-discrimination very much. The irony of the point of view of many of your colleagues is that the University of Houston has had a suit filed because of discrimination in the last month. I am unaware of any current cases against ACU. I know there was a couple hired about 3 or 4 years ago that did not adhere to ACU’s policies, and asked to leave when that was revealed. But is there any school in America that doesn’t treat one group of students or faculty better or worse than another group? I know we should have a higher standard than any other school, but my opinion is that when most academics see or hear the word Christian, they automatically think discrimination. A lot of that is rational, but we’re not Liberty. Because this is a coaching thread, I will try not to comment any more on this off-topic discussion. During my time at ACU between 2014 and 2018 there were at least 2 racially based incidents with one of which making national news. Those are just two that come to mind and that I was aware of. Additionally, if you talk to the students directly they will tell you their experience on the campus with many minority students feeling like the university doesn't do enough to make them feel welcome and included. Court cases are only one data point we can use to understand discrimination on campuses. Your second comment regarding treating some students differently I think is terribly pessimistic and quite sad. I will say is I have much higher hopes for a school a care deeply about. I will also differ to those who have felt the school has harmed them based on their identity, of which there are many, to make the point that it isn't just that we are a Christian school. To bring it back to coaching, I do think this is a good point to bring up some possible coaches that haven't been mentioned. Tremaine Jackson had success on the defensive side of the ball for us as Defensive Coordinator. Ra'Shaad Samples is running backs coach as SMU with good recruiting skills. Lance Taylor is the RB coach at Notre Dame and is another coach on many watch lists.
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Post by catmasters05 on Nov 21, 2021 20:27:52 GMT -6
I haven’t been on this forum in over 2 years, but this has me interested again. I sure hope ACU can make the right hire. In the meantime, I look forward to reading all the speculation and discussion here.
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Post by SportsWizard15 on Nov 21, 2021 20:43:06 GMT -6
I wouldn't mind Tremaine Jackson if everyone else turns down the offer.
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