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Post by bogeyman on Jun 30, 2015 10:18:29 GMT -6
Thigpen, Melde, King, Baughman, Laws, Anderson--seems like we are rich at OL--but not an ounce of experience. If these players (and I do believe they will be players) play in game #1 vs. Fresno State then Parker Mc, Dallas Sealey, Cade Munden, and Ennis better put on their track shoes cause they'll be running for their lives. It may not matter whether we have a potent passing attack if the OL can't keep the defense out. Just my humble opinion. Go get an experienced offensive lineman.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jun 30, 2015 12:15:44 GMT -6
Thigpen, Melde, King, Baughman, Laws, Anderson--seems like we are rich at OL--but not an ounce of experience. If these players (and I do believe they will be players) play in game #1 vs. Fresno State then Parker Mc, Dallas Sealey, Cade Munden, and Ennis better put on their track shoes cause they'll be running for their lives. It may not matter whether we have a potent passing attack if the OL can't keep the defense out. Just my humble opinion. Go get an experienced offensive lineman. Like you, I like the talent we have on the OL. But losing Mayfield and his 12 starts really hurts on the right side of the line. From the spring depth chart: LT. Codey Funk. played in 12 games/12 starts LG. Chance Rieken. Played in 12 games/11 starts C. Austin Hisler. Played in 4 games/ No starts RG. Kris Thigpen. RS F. No playing Experience RT. Colton King. RS F. No playing Experience Hayden Wall played in 9 games/1 start. Limited participation in the spring due to injuries. No one else has any game experience. Most are freshmen or redshirt freshmen. The injury to Riley Mayfield means the entire right side of the line will possibly be made up of guys with no playing experience, unless Wall is able to claim the RG spot.
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Post by Cap'n on Jun 30, 2015 13:11:51 GMT -6
Mayfield struggled against quick pass rushers but his run blocking was very good. I was really looking forward to seeing him at guard. King will surprise ... Excellent athlete. I predict he will be left tackle after Funk.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jun 30, 2015 13:14:25 GMT -6
Thigpen, Melde, King, Baughman, Laws, Anderson--seems like we are rich at OL--but not an ounce of experience. If these players (and I do believe they will be players) play in game #1 vs. Fresno State then Parker Mc, Dallas Sealey, Cade Munden, and Ennis better put on their track shoes cause they'll be running for their lives. It may not matter whether we have a potent passing attack if the OL can't keep the defense out. Just my humble opinion. Go get an experienced offensive lineman. Like you, I like the talent we have on the OL. But losing Mayfield and his 12 starts really hurts on the right side of the line. From the spring depth chart: LT. Codey Funk. played in 12 games/12 starts LG. Chance Rieken. Played in 12 games/11 starts C. Austin Hisler. Played in 4 games/ No starts RG. Kris Thigpen. RS F. No playing Experience RT. Colton King. RS F. No playing Experience Hayden Wall played in 9 games/1 start. Limited participation in the spring due to injuries. No one else has any game experience. Most are freshmen or redshirt freshmen. The injury to Riley Mayfield means the entire right side of the line will possibly be made up of guys with no playing experience, unless Wall is able to claim the RG spot. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jun 30, 2015 13:41:11 GMT -6
Mayfield struggled against quick pass rushers but his run blocking was very good. I was really looking forward to seeing him at guard. King will surprise ... Excellent athlete. I predict he will be left tackle after Funk. I agree about Mayfield. I thought he looked much improved at guard during the spring scrimmage. The whole line impressed me. They held their own against our D Line, something they didn't often do last fall in the preseason.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 13, 2015 17:54:20 GMT -6
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Post by Cap'n on Jul 14, 2015 9:18:41 GMT -6
I'm just wondering which SLC team signs the two miscreants from FSU.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 14, 2015 9:26:40 GMT -6
I'm just wondering which SLC team signs the two miscreants from FSU. Youngstown State just signed a 4 star transfer from Auburn who is facing 6 felony charges. When Auburn tosses a player, you know he's a bad boy. Auburn is known for winking at the misbehavior of potential recruits with at least 4 stars. If not the SLC, someone will snap up the two FSU miscreants. Maybe Auburn, especially since one of the FSU players is a QB. Auburn has a tradition of taking QB's tossed from other schools for their misdeeds--Cam Newton and Nick Marshall come to mind.
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Post by Cap'n on Jul 14, 2015 11:25:09 GMT -6
I really think that any player who is released from his previous university in such a way as to be ineligible to return should have to sit a year before resuming intercollegiate sports.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jul 14, 2015 11:49:10 GMT -6
I really think that any player who is released from his previous university in such a way as to be ineligible to return should have to sit a year before resuming intercollegiate sports. I believe they do have to sit out a year, unless the drop down a classification. This is why FCS schools get these kids that are released from an FBS school.
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Post by wildcats0075 on Jul 14, 2015 12:38:42 GMT -6
I really think that any player who is released from his previous university in such a way as to be ineligible to return should have to sit a year before resuming intercollegiate sports. Wasn't there some talk about part of the reason for moving to FCS was because of the higher eligibility requirements and we would not have to take questionable kids to filed a competitive team. I thought there was a reason that kids dropped to D2 with D1 talent but questionable past. Isn't there supposed to be higher entrance/Clearing House/NCAA transfer restrictions at the FCS level than at the D2 level? If it is just a preference from the school and not some administrative reason kids fall past FCS to D2 then I would think there is more questionable line kids dropping down to FCS and we have a bigger problem with this than at D2. I used to hear that FBS and FCS were both considered D1 so the wait a year on transfer rule (unless released) applied to FCS so the drop to D2 would be to play immediately. Is that correct and are there other stricter requirements at FCS? Anybody with more NCAA knowledge than me have any insight?
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Post by Cap'n on Jul 14, 2015 18:01:40 GMT -6
I really think that any player who is released from his previous university in such a way as to be ineligible to return should have to sit a year before resuming intercollegiate sports. Wasn't there some talk about part of the reason for moving to FCS was because of the higher eligibility requirements and we would not have to take questionable kids to filed a competitive team. I thought there was a reason that kids dropped to D2 with D1 talent but questionable past. Isn't there supposed to be higher entrance/Clearing House/NCAA transfer restrictions at the FCS level than at the D2 level? If it is just a preference from the school and not some administrative reason kids fall past FCS to D2 then I would think there is more questionable line kids dropping down to FCS and we have a bigger problem with this than at D2. I used to hear that FBS and FCS were both considered D1 so the wait a year on transfer rule (unless released) applied to FCS so the drop to D2 would be to play immediately. Is that correct and are there other stricter requirements at FCS? Anybody with more NCAA knowledge than me have any insight? Yes, there are higher academic standards but apparently you can get kicked out of TCU for failing multiple drug tests and start at SHSU the next fall because he was academically eligible.
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Post by Cat_A_holic on Jul 14, 2015 19:45:31 GMT -6
Ok, so who has some time? I've seen on some other sites for some Power 5 teams I follow a recap of previous recruiting classes. Since Coach C has had a couple years now, it would be interesting for someone to go back and walk through those classes and see how many are starters, how many have contributed, how many have not panned out, and how many have left the program.
Anyone game?
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Post by Cat_A_holic on Jul 14, 2015 19:47:20 GMT -6
We could grade as follows:
No longer on team=F
On team but non-contributor=D
On team and plays some=C
On team and contributes significantly=B
On team and is a starter (or two-deeps)=A
Then average all the grades together and see how the classes stack up.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jul 15, 2015 3:50:07 GMT -6
Class of 2014 2.07 GPA Based on Spring 2015 depth chart
27 Signees. 5 starters, 14 on 2 deep, 1 who played last year but is not on two-deep, 2 still on the team but have not seen the field, 5 no longer on the team.
1. Includes only Spring signing class. Does not include deferred enrollment (N' brothers) or post-signing day recruits. 2. This GPA is deceptively low. These players will be RS-F and Sophomores this fall. Many who are not on the current (post-spring 2015) depth chart, will eventually play and many of those who are back ups now, will eventually start. 3. I counted Ausborne as no longer on the team based on correspondence with one of our members. 4. Despite the low GPA, this is arguably the best overall signing class in our history. Time will tell, of course. 5. 2 of the 3 mid-year 2014 transfers were gone before fall which depressed the overall gpa.
A=starter B=2 deep C=Still on team, contributed last year D-Still on team, no playing time last year and not on post-spring 2 deep depth chart.
A=4 points, B=3, C=2, D=1, F-0
Addl note: Since I only included recruits announced on signing day, 3 significant contributors, all starters, are omitted from this GPA--J. Epps (WR), C. Funk (LT) and H. Brodowsky (LS).
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