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Post by bucfan on Dec 15, 2021 18:06:49 GMT -6
It is surprising that Kobe Clark has not received any offers that we know of. He certainly proved his ability the last couple of years. But he isn't tall with blazing speed so schools may not even look very closely at his stats.
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 15, 2021 18:15:55 GMT -6
I am not concerned we didn't have anyone sign. I am concerned we haven't named anyone on the coaching staff. That means one of a few things. We are still looking at our options at a turtle pace, or we have our guys and their seasons aren't yet over. If the latter is the case I will feel a bit better about things, but clock is ticking.
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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Dec 16, 2021 7:38:15 GMT -6
I am having a hard time understanding why players are jumping ship so fast. However, I don't really think that many of these players have had a very good ACU experience. My sense is that the former coach built walls around the program that made it hard for players to see the bigger picture and have much of a college experience outside of football.
After the bowl games, the portal is going to go nuts so I think that KP has time to do his thing.
Also, as a consequence of the portal activity, there are tons of HS and JUCO players who are not signing early. By February, I think things will look a lot different.
Patience, Wildcats, Patience.
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Post by PurpleHaze on Dec 16, 2021 8:20:24 GMT -6
I am having a hard time understanding why players are jumping ship so fast. However, I don't really think that many of these players have had a very good ACU experience. My sense is that the former coach built walls around the program that made it hard for players to see the bigger picture and have much of a college experience outside of football. After the bowl games, the portal is going to go nuts so I think that KP has time to do his thing. Also, as a consequence of the portal activity, there are tons of HS and JUCO players who are not signing early. By February, I think things will look a lot different. Patience, Wildcats, Patience. This.
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Post by catmasters05 on Dec 16, 2021 10:21:39 GMT -6
I am having a hard time understanding why players are jumping ship so fast. However, I don't really think that many of these players have had a very good ACU experience. My sense is that the former coach built walls around the program that made it hard for players to see the bigger picture and have much of a college experience outside of football. After the bowl games, the portal is going to go nuts so I think that KP has time to do his thing. Also, as a consequence of the portal activity, there are tons of HS and JUCO players who are not signing early. By February, I think things will look a lot different. Patience, Wildcats, Patience. I 100% agree with everything you said here, Cattitude. A point you made on another thread was that many of these student athletes are on partial scholarships. As many of us know, ACU is expensive, and so having a less than ideal experience while also only having a partial scholarship could make many players test the transfer portal waters. I do believe that there will be some great talent still available, whether it be those in the transfer portal or HS and JUCO players who are still available. With KP's ties to people at big schools and all over the place, I think he will be able to attract some talent that otherwise may not have considered ACU.
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Post by wildkitten1489 on Dec 16, 2021 10:40:07 GMT -6
I am having a hard time understanding why players are jumping ship so fast. However, I don't really think that many of these players have had a very good ACU experience. My sense is that the former coach built walls around the program that made it hard for players to see the bigger picture and have much of a college experience outside of football. After the bowl games, the portal is going to go nuts so I think that KP has time to do his thing. Also, as a consequence of the portal activity, there are tons of HS and JUCO players who are not signing early. By February, I think things will look a lot different. Patience, Wildcats, Patience. I 100% agree with everything you said here, Cattitude. A point you made on another thread was that many of these student athletes are on partial scholarships. As many of us know, ACU is expensive, and so having a less than ideal experience while also only having a partial scholarship could make many players test the transfer portal waters. I do believe that there will be some great talent still available, whether it be those in the transfer portal or HS and JUCO players who are still available. With KP's ties to people at big schools and all over the place, I think he will be able to attract some talent that otherwise may not have considered ACU. If he has such great ties around the country that can bring in recruits why wasn't he using that at any of his previous stops?
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Post by Outsider on Dec 16, 2021 11:00:53 GMT -6
I 100% agree with everything you said here, Cattitude. A point you made on another thread was that many of these student athletes are on partial scholarships. As many of us know, ACU is expensive, and so having a less than ideal experience while also only having a partial scholarship could make many players test the transfer portal waters. I do believe that there will be some great talent still available, whether it be those in the transfer portal or HS and JUCO players who are still available. With KP's ties to people at big schools and all over the place, I think he will be able to attract some talent that otherwise may not have considered ACU. If he has such great ties around the country that can bring in recruits why wasn't he using that at any of his previous stops? What was his involvement with recruiting at those stops?
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Post by jaminthebody on Dec 16, 2021 11:08:10 GMT -6
I 100% agree with everything you said here, Cattitude. A point you made on another thread was that many of these student athletes are on partial scholarships. As many of us know, ACU is expensive, and so having a less than ideal experience while also only having a partial scholarship could make many players test the transfer portal waters. I do believe that there will be some great talent still available, whether it be those in the transfer portal or HS and JUCO players who are still available. With KP's ties to people at big schools and all over the place, I think he will be able to attract some talent that otherwise may not have considered ACU. If he has such great ties around the country that can bring in recruits why wasn't he using that at any of his previous stops? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Utah_State_Aggies_football_team
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Post by catfanatic on Dec 16, 2021 11:25:33 GMT -6
I am having a hard time understanding why players are jumping ship so fast. However, I don't really think that many of these players have had a very good ACU experience. My sense is that the former coach built walls around the program that made it hard for players to see the bigger picture and have much of a college experience outside of football. After the bowl games, the portal is going to go nuts so I think that KP has time to do his thing. Also, as a consequence of the portal activity, there are tons of HS and JUCO players who are not signing early. By February, I think things will look a lot different. Patience, Wildcats, Patience. Cap'n, I feel your pain. Arkansas' HC, when asked the same thing, said the kids hitting the portal are looking for PT. Also, thought it interestin that he doesn't begrudge the kids leaving for greener pastures, but, is disappointed when a starter leaves. In ACU's case, I think our starters, having proven to themselves they may compete out the FCS level, are responding in their own, unique ways to KP's "why". While selfishly wishing they'd stay at ACU, I'm also sympathetic to the fact that we all travel our respective paths but once. Meanwhile, back at Wildcat Ranch, I take solace in one of Pete Thame's tweets earlier today; "For new coaches in tis cycle, there was a theme of patience. Oregon flipped Anthony Jones from Texas and could snag Cyrus Moss this week, a potential whale for @coachdan Lanning. Oregon has 12 recruits. USC has 6. LSU has 13. Oklahoma has 15." As was said by a wise fellow, "Patience, Wildcats, Patience".
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Post by wildcats0075 on Dec 16, 2021 12:29:34 GMT -6
I am interested to see KP's recruiting style and preference. As he has mainly been at FBS schools, he has been recruiting FBS level talent/size/skill/etc. I always thought that Dorrel was stuck in his D2 mindset to much and stuck to his philosophy of finding guys to fit his NWMS system. I am not the scouting guy that several of the poster on this board are, but it seemed like many of the recruits we were after were 0 stars guys that only had D2 offers other than ACU. Like he would fall in love with a certainly kind of guy (like smaller quicker lineman) and think he can coach them up. That worked well in D2 but it seemed we were always the smaller and less athletic team on the field.
I wonder if KP's radar will just naturally skew towards the more physically gifted recruit to consider and not offer as many lower ranked recruits.
We complain about us not having a 247 sports page, but we also rarely signed recruits that they were tracking anyway.
It seemed like back in the Columns days, we would sign several highly regarded recruits (we could not just never keep them in school more than a season).
I know that just hoping for better athletes does not make them show up at your door, but did Dorrel settle to quickly to get his system guys? I also know that KC's find bigger names at all costs approach lead to high turnover and a breakdown of our GPA/rankings. Just hoping that KP has a better way.
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Post by catfanatic on Dec 16, 2021 14:40:40 GMT -6
I am interested to see KP's recruiting style and preference. As he has mainly been at FBS schools, he has been recruiting FBS level talent/size/skill/etc. I always thought that Dorrel was stuck in his D2 mindset to much and stuck to his philosophy of finding guys to fit his NWMS system. I am not the scouting guy that several of the poster on this board are, but it seemed like many of the recruits we were after were 0 stars guys that only had D2 offers other than ACU. Like he would fall in love with a certainly kind of guy (like smaller quicker lineman) and think he can coach them up. That worked well in D2 but it seemed we were always the smaller and less athletic team on the field. I wonder if KP's radar will just naturally skew towards the more physically gifted recruit to consider and not offer as many lower ranked recruits. We complain about us not having a 247 sports page, but we also rarely signed recruits that they were tracking anyway. It seemed like back in the Columns days, we would sign several highly regarded recruits (we could not just never keep them in school more than a season). I know that just hoping for better athletes does not make them show up at your door, but did Dorrel settle to quickly to get his system guys? I also know that KC's find bigger names at all costs approach lead to high turnover and a breakdown of our GPA/rankings. Just hoping that KP has a better way. Given that several players (e.g. Earle to UNT, James to UNM and Stapp to Minnie-sota) have moved up to FBS in the current recruiting cycle, I, for one don't believe AD etal.'s problem was recruiting
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Post by wildkitten1489 on Dec 16, 2021 15:25:27 GMT -6
If he has such great ties around the country that can bring in recruits why wasn't he using that at any of his previous stops? What was his involvement with recruiting at those stops? Not sure. My point is, if you're good at recruiting (which everyone on this board seems to think KP is), then you usually get used as a recruiter. You also usually get a HC job. For some reason, we're operating under the guise that KP is going to be able to hang out in Lubbock during the hottest transfer and early signing period of the year but still come back to Abilene and pull in the best class ACU has seen full of the "right guys" whatever that means
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Post by Outsider on Dec 16, 2021 16:40:33 GMT -6
What was his involvement with recruiting at those stops? Not sure. My point is, if you're good at recruiting (which everyone on this board seems to think KP is), then you usually get used as a recruiter. You also usually get a HC job. For some reason, we're operating under the guise that KP is going to be able to hang out in Lubbock during the hottest transfer and early signing period of the year but still come back to Abilene and pull in the best class ACU has seen full of the "right guys" whatever that means Possibly, maybe those schools had other designated recruiters and maybe KP did help with some of that. Maybe he can't recruit very well.
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Post by acumedic on Dec 16, 2021 19:29:53 GMT -6
Bronson Warner transfers to Bowling Green.
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Post by bogeyman on Dec 27, 2021 15:30:11 GMT -6
Noticed that the roster seems to have been updated not listing athletes who have transferred. Also noticed only 3 athletes listed as R-Sr or senior--Logan Burke, Tyrese White and John Bannon. Might these 3 be coming back for their covid year?
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