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Post by Cap'n Cattitude on Jun 24, 2015 7:23:39 GMT -6
According to Kevin Roberts a while back ... Wrought Iron.
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Post by wildcatter on Jun 24, 2015 12:56:21 GMT -6
Thanks for posting the photos Oscar.
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Post by acufbdad on Jun 25, 2015 15:30:43 GMT -6
I really liked the bowl layout. It must cost more. Please don't look like merely a high school stadium. Oh well you know what they say about beggars. ..... OK boys, here's my update regarding the stadium issue. Just had a nice visit with an ACU person that was passing thru & wanted to stop in & say hello. Yes, we are still way short on funds to build the stadium but plans are in place to start solicitations from folks other than the big donors since A) they aren't exactly coming thru the doors as often or with as much as was hoped for & B) because there are a lot more of us out there that can give a little every now and then vs. the few that can give the big bucks at one time. Solicitation campaigns will be in full swing by the time football season gets here. Make plans to join the Wildcat Club this fall with your annual memberships - it's getting started as well. Couple of interesting observations 1) The goal is to build a stadium for $30m, but the problem was the pictures on the VIA campaign are for a stadium that would cost $50m to build. 2) The "powers that be" have realized that all of the visuals and the hoopla gave the "impression" that this was a "done deal" and that funds were in place to get this rolling, when in fact only a small portion of the the funds had been pledged. This caused many to assume that since it was already in process, additional financial support was not needed - and then when they were asked for funds, some of these potential donors were less than enthusiastic that they were being asked for help afterwards rather than before. Bogey - the architects on board now are the same ones that built the CCU stadium & that's one of the designs they are looking at & considering the modeling of our stadium after. Whichever way the design ends up, it's going to be something that can be added onto as we go along. There are going to be things/areas you can "sponsor" - I plan to help out with the home team locker room. Mine will be gone from ACU before it gets done, but at least down the road he will have something in there he can look at and say he helped build. If we are going to get this done, looks like we are all going to have to chip in and help make it happen.
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Post by bogeyman on Jun 25, 2015 16:29:21 GMT -6
Well as I said at the beginning of this thread, the CCU stadium part that can be seen from the road is "crudy." It does look like a Texas 2A stadium. Plans are to build until the capacity is around 20K, in pieces. A glorified HS stadium is not what I envisioned for ACU and if asked to give to a stadium that looked like that, I would not give (if I had money in the first place). Even that horrible Shotwell Stadium (as 75 says in each post) is much better looking than metal bleacher seats at a 2A high school and doesn't cost us 30-50 million to build (my contention when this discussion first came up several years ago is that the money needed would be excessive). My summary for this whole debacle is build something you can be proud of, that's not an eyesore or let down or save the money and put it into building a strong program. I'm glad that Wildcat Reign is working diligently on school spirit and getting students out to the games but if 2,000 is our goal, don't waste your time and energy and save the money. In the 60's, when Shotwell had grass turf and no one had money, the students car caravaned (sp) every Saturday. The caravan stretched from Edwards to Shotwell and was a thing of beauty. We didn't have to be catered to (tail gates with free food), we stuck out the game in wind, sun and rain and had a great experience even as the Cats piled up the losses. The student section (now the visitor side) filled the 3 center sections and sometimes more. The "adult" side was similarly filled. My how we have fallen. And now those who pushed for an on campus stadium are either pushing us into huge debt or making us make do with a HS stadium. I know what I'd much rather do...
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Post by WildCatToothDoc on Jun 25, 2015 17:18:41 GMT -6
Everyone went to the game in those days. The big purple was THE BIG PURPLE also. Playing at Texas Stadium and other venues. Yes what DID happen? (to the band at least) Singing the fight song with one of the football members leading the band after the game. Wearing a suit to Homecoming game. (with a date ) Gosh it was hot on the east side. Caravans. What changed? Will an on campus stadium fix it ? I don't think so. Its school spirit ! We all had it and look at us, we still do. Get the spirit (what they are trying to do now) and we have a chance.
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Post by WildCatToothDoc on Jun 25, 2015 17:23:22 GMT -6
CCU stadium? Fill me in
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Post by bogeyman on Jun 25, 2015 18:01:59 GMT -6
CCU is Coastal Carolina. The stadium is named Brooks Stadium. Currently it is a bowl on one side and common bleacher seating on the other. It is an on campus stadium that the students still don't come to. CCU has been ousted in the FCS playoffs the past 2 years by national champ, North Dakota State. This year CCU hosted a 1st or 2nd round playoff game and couldn't get over 700 students to the game (enrollment nearly 10K). This is in metropolitan Myrtle Beach, pop.250K. What else would you like to know? We have 4-5 professors from CCU at church and numerous members who attend football, basketball and baseball games at CCU including me. Believe me, an on campus stadium has not solved their student attendance problem.
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Post by WildCatToothDoc on Jun 25, 2015 18:13:29 GMT -6
CCU is Coastal Carolina. The stadium is named Brooks Stadium. Currently it is a bowl on one side and common bleacher seating on the other. It is an on campus stadium that the students still don't come to. CCU has been ousted in the FCS playoffs the past 2 years by national champ, North Dakota State. This year CCU hosted a 1st or 2nd round playoff game and couldn't get over 700 students to the game (enrollment nearly 10K). This is in metropolitan Myrtle Beach, pop.250K. What else would you like to know? We have 4-5 professors from CCU at church and numerous members who attend football, basketball and baseball games at CCU including me. Believe me, an on campus stadium has not solved their student attendance problem. Thanks for the info Bogey. Lets not copy CCU In stadium or attendance please.
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Post by wildcatreign on Jun 25, 2015 22:37:08 GMT -6
Well as I said at the beginning of this thread, the CCU stadium part that can be seen from the road is "crudy." It does look like a Texas 2A stadium. Plans are to build until the capacity is around 20K, in pieces. A glorified HS stadium is not what I envisioned for ACU and if asked to give to a stadium that looked like that, I would not give (if I had money in the first place). Even that horrible Shotwell Stadium (as 75 says in each post) is much better looking than metal bleacher seats at a 2A high school and doesn't cost us 30-50 million to build (my contention when this discussion first came up several years ago is that the money needed would be excessive). My summary for this whole debacle is build something you can be proud of, that's not an eyesore or let down or save the money and put it into building a strong program. I'm glad that Wildcat Reign is working diligently on school spirit and getting students out to the games but if 2,000 is our goal, don't waste your time and energy and save the money. In the 60's, when Shotwell had grass turf and no one had money, the students car caravaned (sp) every Saturday. The caravan stretched from Edwards to Shotwell and was a thing of beauty. We didn't have to be catered to (tail gates with free food), we stuck out the game in wind, sun and rain and had a great experience even as the Cats piled up the losses. The student section (now the visitor side) filled the 3 center sections and sometimes more. The "adult" side was similarly filled. My how we have fallen. And now those who pushed for an on campus stadium are either pushing us into huge debt or making us make do with a HS stadium. I know what I'd much rather do... Man thats so cool! I personally have done some digging during my free time about why all the hype for ACU football has gone down. And I have found that part of the reason is that there is no record of tradition like the ones you mentioned above. Or if there are it is really hard to find. I had no idea that you were suppose to ask a date to go to the Homecoming football game with you or that there was a huge caravan to Shotwell on game day. I think thats the coolest thing ever! Things like that are what students want to know and want to do but there has been no one telling them they're suppose to. I think implementing the rich traditions that we used to have around football would not only be good for the students but it would connect us with all of ACU's great alumni. It is sad that we have gotten away from those traditions and I would really like to be able to sit every student down the tell them about all these awesome things that ACU students used to do. I believe that bringing those traditions back to the center of ACU life would just what the doctor ordered.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jun 26, 2015 4:46:19 GMT -6
Well as I said at the beginning of this thread, the CCU stadium part that can be seen from the road is "crudy." It does look like a Texas 2A stadium. Plans are to build until the capacity is around 20K, in pieces. A glorified HS stadium is not what I envisioned for ACU and if asked to give to a stadium that looked like that, I would not give (if I had money in the first place). Even that horrible Shotwell Stadium (as 75 says in each post) is much better looking than metal bleacher seats at a 2A high school and doesn't cost us 30-50 million to build (my contention when this discussion first came up several years ago is that the money needed would be excessive). My summary for this whole debacle is build something you can be proud of, that's not an eyesore or let down or save the money and put it into building a strong program. I'm glad that Wildcat Reign is working diligently on school spirit and getting students out to the games but if 2,000 is our goal, don't waste your time and energy and save the money. In the 60's, when Shotwell had grass turf and no one had money, the students car caravaned (sp) every Saturday. The caravan stretched from Edwards to Shotwell and was a thing of beauty. We didn't have to be catered to (tail gates with free food), we stuck out the game in wind, sun and rain and had a great experience even as the Cats piled up the losses. The student section (now the visitor side) filled the 3 center sections and sometimes more. The "adult" side was similarly filled. My how we have fallen. And now those who pushed for an on campus stadium are either pushing us into huge debt or making us make do with a HS stadium. I know what I'd much rather do... Man thats so cool! I personally have done some digging during my free time about why all the hype for ACU football has gone down. And I have found that part of the reason is that there is no record of tradition like the ones you mentioned above. Or if there are it is really hard to find. I had no idea that you were suppose to ask a date to go to the Homecoming football game with you or that there was a huge caravan to Shotwell on game day. I think thats the coolest thing ever! Things like that are what students want to know and want to do but there has been no one telling them they're suppose to. I think implementing the rich traditions that we used to have around football would not only be good for the students but it would connect us with all of ACU's great alumni. It is sad that we have gotten away from those traditions and I would really like to be able to sit every student down the tell them about all these awesome things that ACU students used to do. I believe that bringing those traditions back to the center of ACU life would just what the doctor ordered. I am sure somewhere on campus there is a repository of old Prickly Pear annuals. You might try thumbing through some of them from the 60's to get ideas about traditions--The Kitten Club (striped purple and white sweaters...was a cheering and card section, for example)...Cheerleaders had a "Wildcat Wagon" (a classic older car) to enter the football field....the Big Purple was a great band back in the day, and the halfime show was often better than he game, and the Drum Major was an honored position, the Wildcat Midway, Homecoming bonfire, and "pep rally" on campus, sometimes involving faculty. In 65-66 a very young tony Ash and two other faculty led cheers in Biblical Hebrew, for example. The football team was not very good...but I agree with Bogey, the spirit was higher and a higher percentage of students attended games. Enrollment hit 3,000 in the mid 60's, so if over 2k attended games that's 2/3's of the student body.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Jun 26, 2015 5:57:28 GMT -6
Bogey, I doubt that ACU will build a 2A style football stadium. New construction on campus since the mid 60's has been first class, starting with Moody, the Student Center and the library. Until funding is in place, rekindling some older traditions might well help build attendance. Please don't bring back the dressing up for homecoming and buy your date a mum tradition, however. Some things are better left in the past! But if the Wildcat Reign could bring back the Wildcat Wagon and help restore the Big purple to its glory days, that would be wonderful.
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Post by bogeyman on Jun 26, 2015 8:01:31 GMT -6
Yeah, wearing a tie to the game got old fast. The other thing not mentioned was having the students come on the field for a human tunnel for the players to run thru at the beginning of the game. I don't remember if that was just HC or all games.
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Post by wildcatreign on Jun 26, 2015 8:14:10 GMT -6
Bogey, I doubt that ACU will build a 2A style football stadium. New construction on campus since the mid 60's has been first class, starting with Moody, the Student Center and the library. Until funding is in place, rekindling some older traditions might well help build attendance. Please don't bring back the dressing up for homecoming and buy your date a mum tradition, however. Some things are better left in the past! But if the Wildcat Reign could bring back the Wildcat Wagon and help restore the Big purple to its glory days, that would be wonderful. I really like the bringing back a "date" concept though. I won't do mums or anything, those feel too high school to me, but there are already a lot of events on campus in which you're suppose to bring a date and students go all out for them. So I think bringing a date to the homecoming football game would be a HUGE hit!
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Post by catmasters05 on Jun 26, 2015 8:27:13 GMT -6
CCU is Coastal Carolina. The stadium is named Brooks Stadium. Currently it is a bowl on one side and common bleacher seating on the other. It is an on campus stadium that the students still don't come to. CCU has been ousted in the FCS playoffs the past 2 years by national champ, North Dakota State. This year CCU hosted a 1st or 2nd round playoff game and couldn't get over 700 students to the game (enrollment nearly 10K). This is in metropolitan Myrtle Beach, pop.250K. What else would you like to know? We have 4-5 professors from CCU at church and numerous members who attend football, basketball and baseball games at CCU including me. Believe me, an on campus stadium has not solved their student attendance problem. I just looked at some pictures of Brooks Stadium at CCU. I think the home side/ press box and the end zone/ field house look pretty cool. The visitor side would be somewhat embarassing, but hopefully we could improve on that part of the stadium and make it a little more appealing. Plus, we would need the visitor side to be bigger because this stadium could be used for a ton of high school playoff games. But in general, it isn't bad looking. It's just disappointing that the pictures presented a year ago of the proposed new stadium are going to be so far off what we end up with.
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Post by catmasters05 on Jun 26, 2015 8:28:57 GMT -6
Yeah, wearing a tie to the game got old fast. The other thing not mentioned was having the students come on the field for a human tunnel for the players to run thru at the beginning of the game. I don't remember if that was just HC or all games. This makes me think about the Baylor Line... doing something like that to involve the student body (even if it were just the freshman) might get them more excited about coming to a game... and being on time.
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