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Post by catfanatic on Oct 30, 2021 20:51:46 GMT -6
Actually, catfanatic, I think that decision will come from Dr. Schubert. If you mean Dr. Schubert, not the new AD, will make the hire, why are we spending $ on an AD!?!
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Post by acuwildcat86 on Oct 31, 2021 0:18:27 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football?
I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program.
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Post by OscarWildeCat, Admin on Oct 31, 2021 4:35:20 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football? I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program. Collums is much easier to explain. 1. ACU got the invite to join the SLC before we had the finances in hand to make the jump from D2. We couldn’t pay for the needed scholarships and had to phase them in over several years. This placed us us a a competitive disadvantage. Our recruiting budget was poor relative to our peers. And so forth. 2. It wasn’t all on ACU though. Collums had never been a head coach and struggled with managing a team. Dorrel is a head scratcher. He’s had the resources he needs-we are able to offer all 63 scholarships. Our recruiting budget is adequate. Dorrel was a highly successful head coach. Our current DC was quite successful at one of the best programs in FCS. .
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Post by jCat on Oct 31, 2021 6:39:23 GMT -6
More stats on SFA- Enrollment 11,946 undergraduates(down 5%) 1,647 (graduate)
- Playing football since 1923
- Homer Bryce Stadium seats 14,575 (built 1953)
- Nacogdoches city population 33,200
- Attendance at homecoming vs ACU 9,817
For more context- Crossed 13,000 student mark for the first time in 2018
- 12,845 total students in 2009 (11,444 undergrads with boasted 65% retention rate)
- 12,815 total students in 1990
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Post by ACU - Brain on Oct 31, 2021 6:56:08 GMT -6
I am done watching this game. I knew we would probably lose, but just the shear lack of growth and the absolute backsliding in football IQ is mind boggling..... We’ll at least we wore white uniforms
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 31, 2021 8:42:07 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football? I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program. Collums is much easier to explain. 1. ACU got the invite to join the SLC before we had the finances in hand to make the jump from D2. We couldn’t pay for the needed scholarships and had to phase them in over several years. This placed us us a a competitive disadvantage. Our recruiting budget was poor relative to our peers. And so forth. 2. It wasn’t all on ACU though. Collums had never been a head coach and struggled with managing a team. Dorrel is a head scratcher. He’s had the resources he needs-we are able to offer all 63 scholarships. Our recruiting budget is adequate. Dorrel was a highly successful head coach. Our current DC was quite successful at one of the best programs in FCS. . Not to take anything away from the kids we have recruited, because I think in the sense of setting a good foundation we have done well, but overall recruiting has been my biggest disappointment. We get good players, but we don't often get great players. We aren't getting any surprise players that pop off on film. I wonder if coming from a power house where players wanted to play for you compared to ACU's situation plays a larger role than we often give credit to. Additionally, how many of the players that we do get don't seem to progress the way we expect. Development of the players we are recruiting has been quite disappointing. I like Dorrel, but I have always said to give a coach 5 years no question before you can evaluate their performance. Well, this is season 5 and the evaluation isn't looking so good.
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Post by catfanatic on Oct 31, 2021 10:38:42 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football? I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program. Very fair question, and the response may go as many directions as the number of responses. Personally, everybody—fans, players, coaches, administrators—need to evaluate themselves and decide if they’re “all in” on ACU, or not. People want to be where people WANT to be. Said another way, if you look like a duck and sound like a duck, the tendency is for folks to think you’re a duck. ACU needs to demonstrate the desired behavior 24/7/365. As a university, we are D-1 academically, so it makes sense to recruit and compete at that level athletically. Meanwhile, all I have real control over is how good am I doing as a fan. Strictly one Wildcats fan’s perspective.
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Post by ybp80 on Oct 31, 2021 10:58:05 GMT -6
The frustrating thing for me as a Wildcat fan and San Antonio resident is watching UIW go from no football team 12 years ago to a highly successful team in only 6-7 years. They are having another successful season while ACU struggles. We are young and in a position to be at that higher level in a couple of years, but I haven’t seen the player development, creativity on offense or defense or the ability to make adjustments. That’s not the kids, that’s the coaches.
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Post by wildcatter on Oct 31, 2021 11:34:00 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football? I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program. Very fair question, and the response may go as many directions as the number of responses. Personally, everybody—fans, players, coaches, administrators—need to evaluate themselves and decide if they’re “all in” on ACU, or not. People want to be where people WANT to be. Said another way, if you look like a duck and sound like a duck, the tendency is for folks to think you’re a duck. ACU needs to demonstrate the desired behavior 24/7/365. As a university, we are D-1 academically, so it makes sense to recruit and compete at that level athletically. Meanwhile, all I have real control over is how good am I doing as a fan. Strictly one Wildcats fan’s perspective. Fans can be critical and disappointed. I stated in another thread that we stink in a lot of sports right now compared to our peers and that was a ridiculed statement. Like you said, a duck is a duck.
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Post by archsimon on Oct 31, 2021 12:39:54 GMT -6
This has been the most underwhelming fall sports season in a loooooooong time. Congrats to Irene Rono and XC on leading the Wildcats this autumn. Let's put FB, VB and soccer behind us, and have high hopes for hoops and baseball.
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Post by acutrackfan on Oct 31, 2021 12:59:16 GMT -6
This has been the most underwhelming fall sports season in a loooooooong time. Congrats to Irene Rono and XC on leading the Wildcats this autumn. Let's put FB, VB and soccer behind us, and have high hopes for hoops and baseball. And, track and field, particularly on the women's side. The relative success of the women's XC -- particularly getting three runners in the top 9, plus the champion -- will translate over well to the track. Utah Valley is much stronger in the distances than any other segment of their team. And, Cal Baptist can't contend for the T&F title because they ONLY have distance runners - no sprinters or throwers or jumpers or vaulters. Frankly that makes for a rather boring T&F team. The ACU women should make a run at winning the WAC T&F championships led by Irene Rono, Annina Brandenburg, Taylor Tolen, and Megan Kirby. And, I read after posting on the T&F thread about Irene Rono winning the WAC XC championship, that Irene's time was the fastest 6K XC time in conference history. In fact, the 2nd place finisher from CBU handily beat the old record as well. That is really great to see Irene debuting so well. I was an official at the Big 12 XC championship this past weekend and I saw Kelsey Ramirez, who transferred from SFA to OK State as a grad transfer, get 6th in a very, very strong Big 12 field. Irene beat Kelsey at the SLC XC championships last spring, but Kelsey won the mile and 3K indoors for SFA last year. Kelsey won the 1500, then finished 3rd in the 5K (behind Irene) outdoors.
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Post by bogeyman on Oct 31, 2021 13:11:42 GMT -6
You lost me with the walking and quacking like a duck analogy. What is our "desired behavior" that is expected 24/7?
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Post by rc on Oct 31, 2021 13:47:11 GMT -6
I read the SFA Board and the headline is that their quarterback led a "ROUT" of Abilene Christian. That hurts. My roots run so deep for ACU. My mother and father as well as my older brother went here. I turned down Harvard to be a professor at ACU -- that is purple blood. Now we are the best endowed university in the WAC and we are noted nationally in some academic areas. I am proud of those things. I am also amazed at our basketball teams these last few years. Football, well, with such nice facilities and support for our university, is not up to par especially given the competitive level we have faced the last few years. I won't name names of schools we lose to but gracious, in my rating system they don't measure up to the standards I expect for ACU -- not even close. I guess this is part of life, some things are just bummers. Were it not for basketball (and a rising baseball program and Irene,) I would rather be in division II, be competitive, and spend our money on academics. I love sports, played sports, and all that, but life is more enjoyable when things go well. When you under-achieve, it is frustrating. I'll shut up now.
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Post by ACU - Brain on Oct 31, 2021 14:21:35 GMT -6
I was not sure that kick was in Zepeda's range. I’m not sure the 52 yards was in his range either the wind was strong into his kick. If your kicker appears to be having a good day. Zepeda’s made a 52 & 41 yarder. So it give me pause for thought....why does Dorrel allows him to kick a 52 yarder into the wind and then not allow him to a attempt a 53 with with the wind at his back? If I remember correctly we recover the ball in the end zone. We drive the ball to the SFA 37 yard line. There was 4:06 left in the third qtr and we punt the ball from the SFA 37 yard line to the SFA 13 yard line. Let’s not forget we then we allow SFA to drive 87 yards for a TD. If we can’t stop a 87 yard drive Dorrel might as well give him the opportunity to make the kick.
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Post by footballmama on Oct 31, 2021 15:50:57 GMT -6
Honest question: why isn’t Dorrel successful here? Why did Collums struggle? Aren’t the both good coaches? Are we sure it’s not us? Is ACU too much of an uphill climb to ever be good at football? I am genuinely curious if we think we have the ability to ever be a consistent playoff caliber football program. Coaches are good from year to year or school to school because if the players they have. Just as a coach like Dabo and Orgeron can have a good year and a bad year at the same school. We have to find a way to make ACU the place kids want to come. Nice facilities are great, but ACU has to get creative to offer more than what everyone else offers. You have to have coaches AND players.
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